I just got word from our reseller that PDM Workgroup is going away, to be replaced with a low end version of EPDM. Anyone else head this?
It's true. When PDM Workgroup gets completely phased out has been said, but SolidWorks 2016 will ship with ePDM-Lite, or some such name. It was announced at SolidWorks World earlier this year.
That was what I was told.
I wonder how it will affect the old vault. Start over?
As I understand it, there will be a need to migrate to a new vault but it won't be a seamless transition. There were rumblings about VARs charging to help, which I think is utter BS. If SolidWorks is going to force those of us who use WPDM, because we have no use for full-blown ePDM, to pay to switch to ePDM-lite (or whatever the name is), then it shouldn't end up costing us anything more than the time to populate the vault.
"ePDM-Lite" ?!? What's that? I thought it was called "SOLIDWORKS PDM Standard".
Although why they don't call EPDM-Lite something more intuitive like "EPDM-Lite" is beyond me.
My reseller said the same thing, but was a little fishy when I asked for specifics. I thought he was just continuing the same routine we've heard over and over again about WPDM going away. He did say it would be SQL-driven and somthing "Lite", so Jeff M's comment about the SolidWorks World announcement makes it a lot more valid and, I have to say, ominous.
My reseller said exactly the same thing about SQL and EPDM "Lite" as well. Wasn't sure if it was the 2016 release or not though.
I know some people that won't be happy...
The fishy part was when I asked if he had a link to a SolidWorks announcement or official email he could forward. He just said he had heard about it and didn't know if it was at SW 2016 or 2017. He was following up a separate issue and just mentioned this news as something to think about in the near future. I would hope that SW would roll out and include some sort of conversion plan for migrating existing WPDM vaults to EPDM-Lite.
It is true that there will be a new version of pdm in SW2016. I have not heard anything about that WPDM will stop functioning, only that a new software will be available. If it does not stop working, then there is no immediate crisis. There have been few changes to it in the past several years of SW updates anyway. My guess is that we will still be able to use it, but maybe without support.
So do you think they would include both WPDM and EPDM-Lite in 2016?
If both were included, it would only perpetuate the problem. If WPDM were not included, new users would not be likely to use it as opposed to choosing the new version.
Hopefully the new version will provide sufficient improvements along with a migration method while not mandating an immediate disruption.
Good point, and very true! I can easily see that happening. Maybe they could make some kind of migration tool, or allow it to check out so it can be checked in to the new vault, but nothing else.
That's more or less what we do now. Hopefully we'll either get some kind of migration assistance tied in or a year or so of unsupported operation before it dies completely. This could end up being a major deal.
Fellow co-worker found this on his former ANZ reseller's website: Retirement plan for Solidworks Workgroup PDM – SW Professional & Premium licenses | SolidWorks Design Solutions by Inte…
Two more years for WPDM.
I just found this: SOLIDWORKS
Thanks Jeff and John for sharing this. Despite a good bit of skepticism by many over the past several years in this forum, it appears that SW is keeping it's word when we were promised that there would be an announcement made well ahead of any termination date.
I think the real question is what the "migration path" looks like. The lack of information (perceived as secrecy) has caused a fair bit of anxiety, especially for some of us who remember "the old days" when PDM was just another word for 'pain'.
We have all files in wPDM (all money in it) and can't afford to risk the transition over night - if it doesn't work at some points then we screwed
It looks like it will be around through the 2017 version, with a replacement called Solidworks PDM Standard. So at least it's not overnight. I think it's part of the 2016 Beta, so we won't be going in totally blind. It might workout better than Workgroup. Who knows?
Our company needs an overhaul in that area. Maybe it will push us in the right direction.
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