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Question asked by Benjamin Logan on Jul 5, 2007
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I'm having some trouble with a BOM for an assembly I'm working on.I have a subassembly in it but for some odd reason it doesn't showup in my BOM. The PARTS of the subassembly do show up, however.
Feeling a bit lost because there are a few subassy's that need tohave their parts listed separately. I was able to assign certainparts to not appear in the BOM, and did the same with this onesubassy. The three parts that make up this delinquent are set notto appear in the BOM, I only want the subassy to appear because itsfrom a supplier, not in-house (cadregister and 3Dcontentcentralboth turned up empty looking for it).

Previously, even with the 3 parts allowed to appear in the BOM, thesubassy still was not listed. Any ideas what could be generatingthis wierd omission?

Running 2006 SP 4.1

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Eddie Cyganik Jul 5, 2007 6:20 PM
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Benjamin,
Because the parts show but the sub does not, I would look at the Top Level properties of the BOM to see what "BOM Type" it is. My guess would be that it is set to "Parts Only". If this is the case, select "Indented Assemblies"

Beside this, there are only two settings you should need:
For Subs not to show the part, even when an indented bill is being input, go to the sub assembly, then Configuration Properties and check the box for "Don't show child components in BOM when used as sub-assembly".
Other than that, there is a setting for individual parts (in assembly mode) under components properties called "Exclude from bill of materials".
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Ryan Woita Jul 5, 2007 6:21 PM
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When inserting a BOM under BOM type you can select Top Level only.This will allow you to show only the top level parts and subassemblys
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- Benjamin Logan @ Ryan Woita on Jul 5, 2007 6:32 PM
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  Eddie,
  
  I tried the indented assemblies BOM, but I can't get the balloonsto give me a number, just a *. Is there some way to avoid that?
  
  Ryan,
  
  I need to show some of the parts from some of the sub assemblies inthe BOM, so Top-Level won't quite cut the mustard. Does show thesubassy i need, but not the rest of what I need.
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  - Eddie Cyganik @ Benjamin Logan on Jul 5, 2007 6:44 PM
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    Benjamin,
    As I said, indented is the only BOM type that will display both sub-assemblies and their individual parts.
    
    There was one statement in my last post that might have thrown you off, I said, "Other than that, there is a setting for individual parts (in assembly mode) under components properties called "Exclude from bill of materials". This is not entirely true, the setting affects parts AND sub-assemblies. Therefore, access the "sub" in question at the next higher assembly to clear the check box for "Exclude from bill of materials".
    
    As far as balloons go, make sure your drawing view is linked to the BOM.
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    - Benjamin Logan @ Eddie Cyganik on Jul 5, 2007 6:47 PM
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      Was never checked in the first place.
      
      My kingdom for a 'point and click' BOM construct option.
      
      Thanks for the help.
      
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      - SolidAir @ Benjamin Logan on Jul 5, 2007 7:07 PM
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        Benjamin,
        
        What Eddie was saying is to only show the sub-assy and not the parts contained in it, you must have the Don't show child components... box checked.
        
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      - Eddie Cyganik @ Benjamin Logan on Jul 5, 2007 7:08 PM
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        Benjamin,
        
        Unless you're willing to share data, I cannot think of anything else right now.
        
        For me it is basically a 3 step process.
        #1 - Insert required view & select.
        #2 - Insert BOM (SW Table Based)
        #3 - Auto Insert Balloons
        
        See corresponding attachments.
        
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        Benjamin Logan @ Eddie Cyganik on Jul 5, 2007 7:14 PM
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        Eddie,
        
        I do have a similar screen to what you're showing in the postedimages, my problem is that I need the some of the sub assemblyparts auto ballooned as well, but I can only get the *, as I saidbefore. I'd cheeseball it with manual balloons, but unfortunatelywhere I work things are prone to be reordered or changed or removedetc, etc.
        
        That's what I've been trying to do, but I can't get it tocooperate. Do the newer versions provide support for this? Our ITdepartment is not the most active group of people, unfortunately.So we don't have the more recent builds.
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        Eddie Cyganik @ Benjamin Logan on Jul 5, 2007 8:03 PM
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        Benjamin,
        I don't give up easily.
        If you have something similar to what I posted earlier, then you'll need to do a coulpe of other things:
        => Check the box for "Show Numbering". This can be found under Table Properties in the BOM Type field.
        => Select the sub-assembly components. If the numbers do not update or reflect the BOM numbers like my example (1.1, 1.2, etc.) Then go back to the BOM Type and select Parts Only, then Indented Assemblies (I refer to this as "Flexing".)
        => Lastly, you will run into the problem of selecting the sub-assembly itself. What we do is create a sketch of a short line that can be selected. the sketch can then be hidden.
        NOTE: Normally, to select a sub-assembly for a custom property, you can select the origin but with indented subs and item numbers, there seems to be this additional caveat.
        Hope this finally solves your problem.
        Final NOTE: This issue is supposed to be fixed in SW2008 with the ability to select a sub graphically. Unfortunately, I cannot test this because I either crashed or locked up my workstation 3 times just trying to down-laod Beta.
        ...but hey, thats a story for another day.
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        Benjamin Logan @ Eddie Cyganik on Jul 6, 2007 11:27 AM
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        Still no luck. I've actually had the 'Show Numbering' box checkedright off, but even after your Flexing trick iI still can't get thenumbers for the subassy parts to show up correctly. Looks like I'mjust going to have to cheeseball it and bubble them manually.
        
        Maybe there's some document or system option I need to tweak.
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