is onshape the end of solidworks?
free or $100.00 per month with full professional cad, have you try it?
I think the "full" part is still along ways to go! It is at a very promising infant stage, will it take a considerable chunk out of SW market share a couple of years from now? Most likely, but in those couple of years SW will (have to) adjust there business structure to cope with this new contenders (including Fusion 360) and will stay afloat. It won't be the New Kid on the Block anymore, but will be here for a while.
For the moment, I don't think so. I don't like working with onshape.
Still no sheetmetal in it and there are still places where you don't have an internet connection.
I don't believe it has drawings either. Of course there are many people that don't need them, but some of us still do, and will for the foreseeable future.
Cant even load a part today using it, just says onshape isn't connected even though my connection is +50mbs down and 15 up.
Cant create drawings in onshape.
They are still very early days and it seems very basic, but it will be interesting how it pans out.
Onshape will automatically make our product better, keeping a Software on the market for years creates a leap frog business - if you don't keep jumping you die.
It seems to have some promise but at this point I have not had any success in accessing the web page to set up the "free" beta version. From the videos I am surprised at how very similar the command structures seem to be with respect to SW. There's no doubt that the Onshape team is a class act and quite capable. I agree with John Stoltzfus that a benefit from any competitor is improved functionality for all serious current CAD companies.
I have been able to use it briefly, yesterday, just too busy to really play with it. Does it really not have the functionality to create drawings, that would be really suprising.
It doesn't yet, Would be no use to a lot if it never had drawing functionality.
Thanks Greg. They must be adding drawings in soon, but it is still surprsing it was released without. That and our reluctance to have data on a cloud somewhere puts us out.
the drawing function was already promised for the end of 2014. But if you only make product design, then it is maybe a good solution if you could also do some freeforming in it
Technically is not released yet, just in Public Beta
It's still early yet. If you remember, SolidWorks didn't have the drawing presentation tools to compete with AutoCAD for quite a few releases.
They seem to have found a good approach to top-down design and gotten rid of the confusing distinction between assembly modeling and multi-body part modeling. I like that you can share sketches and create features across parts.
If nothing else, it's given me ideas for a couple of enhancement requests for SW-like being able to apply fillets to multiple bodies.
After a decade of unchallenged dominance, having some competition should invigorate the dev team.
I just hope it doesn't spur DSS to make an 'also cloud' competitor to Onshape instead of improving SW. I still feel burned over the whole 3DVia experience.
Is mechanical conceptual not DSS answer onto onshape?
I've been using Onshape since August 2014 as a pre-production user.
True, it needs a lot more functionality if it wants to go head to head with the entrenched MCAD players like SOLIDWORKS.
Still, even in this early stage, Onshape does some unique things where it clearly beats (legacy) SOLIDWORKS. I'm thinking about version control, ubiquity of access, single data source, collaboration, direct editing, multi-body approach, user interface...
One thing is very clear to me. SOLIDWORKS will have to adapt their product, business and pricing to stay afloat. I'm not sure whether the new SWCD and SWID are the right answers to Onshape (or Fusion 360) in their current incarnation.
The team at Onshape is incredible. They take listening to their users very seriously and are fiercely expanding functionality (the platform is updated every few weeks). A lot of stuff has been added in six months already...
They have the platform in place. Expanded functionality will only be a matter of time. Btw, you can see an overview video of drawings in the Product Tour section on their website. Drawings will be released shortly.
I'm a believer in Onshape as a product and perhaps equally important, as a company. The appeal of being able to access your CAD data anywhere is huge.
Dries Vervoort wrote: I'm a believer in Onshape as a product and perhaps equally important, as a company. The appeal of being able to access your CAD data anywhere is huge.
Dries Vervoort wrote:
I'm sure that having your models or drawings out on the cloud would be a big advantage to some people, but in the situation here where I work much of what we do is Intellectual Property, or, in the case of anti-ram structures, has other security issues. I just don't think it would be received well if I went to my bosses and said I wanted to switch modeling softwares, and oh by the way, all the information will be out on the cloud.
I'm not putting Onshape down, I just don't see it ever being an option here as long as that's the case.
Then the question is: who is better at securing your IP-sensitive data? Your in-house IT department? Or the CAD/PDM/PLM provider with dedicated security experts? I used to be sceptical about the cloud myself, but the security argument simply doesn't fly anymore.
Quite clearly, even for SOLIDWORKS, the future lays in the cloud. If you start a new CAD company today, it makes no sense to develop a pure desktop tool.
SOLIDWORKS Conceptual Designer & SOLIDWORKS Industrial Designer are cloud tools too. No local storage (as far as I know).
The cloud is the future, if you like it or not.
"You want the new and exciting stuff? Great! We have cool solutions for you, but you'll have to move to the cloud." That's the reality of today.
True CAD innovation isn't going to happen in legacy SOLIDWORKS. It just doesn't make sense for Dassault.
I haven't done any research on cloud based security versus in house, so I guess maybe it's time. But I just don't see how sending my data off somewhere else to be stored is more secure than in my own little building. To me it's like storing my weapons in a different building, I prefer to have them next to me.
Either approach (cloud vs. in house) has benefits.
Perhaps another analogy is more appropriate...
Would you rather store your savings under your bed or invest them in stock?
Depends on where my guns are
I get where you're coming from though. Agree to disagree until I am shown the light of the new way...
Dries Vervoort wrote: Then the question is: who is better at securing your IP-sensitive data? Your in-house IT department? Or the CAD/PDM/PLM provider with dedicated security experts? I used to be sceptical about the cloud myself, but the security argument simply doesn't fly anymore.
Really? Try telling that to...
JP Morgan Chase
US Vet Affairs
... and many, many more.
Those where some very public cases due to the size of the companies and the type information (user account info) stolen... I'm pretty sure there thousands of cases of inhouse systems where the data was compromised or completely lost, due to poor infrastructure, they are just not public. IT 101, there is no such thing as a 100% secure system.
All will be well till the "Cloud" is either bought out or invaded by some foreign country - Oh lookie free info
Not at it's current price...
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