Because I have asked this question on an Adobe forum as well, please see the following screenshot:
I am curious why you want to directly embed the smg file into Indesign? As I am aware you will not be able to embed the Composer Player into Indesign due to its coding. Even if it were possible you would still have to publish it to a PDF etc. anyway. I would recommend embedding it into your pdf after it is published if at all.
Depending on what exactly going digital means for your company there will be different solutions. For instance if it is going to be hosted online or on a server that production staff would have access to. When the Composer Player is embedded you will also be limited by several other things as I am sure you read in your attached forum about Composer and Indesign. I personally prefer to make animations for my steps in Composer and then do post production in Premiere Pro. This gives me a video I can use across several options (however is not very interactive). I leave Indesign for the work that does not involve animation.
Do you have an example from a website etc of the outcome you would like to achieve.
I feel that if we embed the SMG file directly into Indesign, then we would just have to manage basically the one Composer file as the views would be updated in Indesign on their own because they are linked. Then when we need to make an update to the words of the guidebook, we could just update the Indesign file export it to a PDF and not have to do any more steps such as re embedding it into the new PDF. We make changes to these guidebooks often.
Please see the example below from one of our guidebooks:
This is just for reference, and usually every step has an image under it. Our current guidebooks just have a step, with an image after it. We are now just beginning to use CAD images instead of images taken directly from the production floor. My vision as we "go digital" (have the production floor be able to view a PDF through a computer at each station), is to have an interactive animation where needed in the guidebook. For example, after step number 4 there could be a short "clip" (that could be zoomed, rotated, paused, etc..., all which the SMG file provides) that shows the cloth being placed over the bracket and the window going up.
Then after step 5, I could show the window going up and down and then zoom into the window making contact with the adhesive trim.
For large assemblies that have different people at different stations, we could even possibly just have one long, interactive video that shows the entire station process. Production would then just open their station in the guidebook and it would only be one page long and interactive.
Depending on which part is being made, the guide could have many different clips embedded into the file. This is why embedding the file directly into the PDF would be a problem. If we update the words of the guide in Indesign, we would then export the PDF and have to relink all clips. We would also have to leave lots of space in the Indesign document for the video space.
We also have about 900 current guidebooks in the Indesign format.
Looks like I will have to do some research to see ways other companies are using Composer for production assemblies. This is just immediately what I had envisioned as I left the Composer class after doing it through Microsoft Word.
OK, thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately you cannot link your images in Composer directly to Indesign. That being said my workflow is to create eps images and then link to Indesign. This only adds one step as these links in Indesign will update as soon as I update the image from Composer when needed.
As far as embedding clips into your pdfs I too played with that idea and it was quickly scrapped once I saw the size of my PDF files after linking individual clips at each step. You could however embed the Composer Player into your pdf after it was created in Indesign. Unfortunately that is going to be the only way you can get interactive zoom etc.
I see your concern with having to leave space and updating your pdf every time you do a text change. This would relinking videos to the new updated pdf. This is another reason why I choose not to use animations embedded in my pdf's. While I am sure some people love it I just have never seen a direct need. For instruction or assembly manuals I don't feel interactive is nessecary since if a screw goes in a hole I can show them the hole they don't need to be able to rotate it into view. This being said interactivity is awesome for marketing purposes and Composer does do a good job in that aspect as well.
The way I work around this is to basically make 2 manuals for every procedure. I do one for text and technical images like a typical manual and then I make a separate animated video that follows the same steps with the same text. I insert the text and other post production needs for my video in Premiere. This does however leave the viewer no control and only viewing what I want them to (no rotate, zoom, etc.)
Keep us posted on any information you may find in regards to this project. Seems we have similar goals for achievements in Composer so I will be interested in what you find.
Will do, thank you for all of your help! I will keep you updated.
Rather than embed this into InDesign, you'll likely want to embed it into a PDF file for the final output. Create a button named SeemageReplace in the PDF file and use that file as the PDF template in SW Composer. This will give you the interactivity you are looking for. MS Word supports ActiveX controls, wereas InDesign does not.
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