It's not obvious when the window is not maximized, but when I maximize it, there is space all around where I can see the desktop. And when the window is not maximized, and I try to resize it, I can see the invisible border.
So my VAR said that this behavior is intended because they did it to match the mobile versions of the program.
I do not have the 2015 e-drawings viewer, yet.
But just a guess, It might be something to do with the windows theme you are using. Maybe go from the out of the box theme which has transparency borders to windows basic.
Wouldn't I see that with other windows, or older versions of eDrawings, though if that were the case? I am only seeing this behavior with eDrawings 2015.
I don´t know, it was just a guess. I do not no what they have done to e-drawings 2015.
Have you checked if you are running a graphic card driver that is compatible with SW 2015. Graphics Card Drivers | SOLIDWORKS
Just installed it.
I see it to, must be something new.
Well, I'm glad it's not just me.
I can see it also......looks very strange when maximized & you can see bits & pieces of the window behind.
Hi Jason, I worked on the design of the new user interface for eDrawings. The border, which allows you to resize the eDrawings window, fades away when it is not being used. We have customized the user interface so that we can control its visibility relative to the proximity of the cursor. So the border fades out as the cursor moves away from it. This is an intended design to reduce the visual clutter around the outer border of the window. The benefit of this design is more evident when it is stacked above other windows. However, in the maximized mode, this customized border would appear, as you have noticed, as an invisible gap around the perimeter of the screen when your mouse is away from it. Hopefully, that sheds a bit more light on the subject. Thanks.
Thank you for the additional clarification, although I don't see how that functionality is considered a benefit. Why would it matter if there is a visible border around the window or not?
This was a design decisions to address a subjective issue of visual clutter around the window border (specifically when there are multiple eDrawings windows not maximized but cascading in the view). If you are not bothered by the visual effect of current window borders, then you will not find this a visual benefit. You are correct.
The look of eDrawings 2015 is a big departure. Most of it I'm sure I'll get to used to, I haven't really discovered all the features yet.
However, the fact that you can see the window behind a maximized eDrawings window is more concerning to me. When other windows are maximized, the border goes away. Shouldn't that happen with eDrawings as well?
For reference, I'm on Windows 7 SP1.
You are absolutely right. This new style is a huge departure from the previous style of eDrawings. That style was established in the 90's and now we want to update it to a more current style. This new look was inspired by the latest suite of Microsoft products. It's true though that the effects of the border in maximized mode of the eDrawings window is not consistent with other products. We are looking into this issue. Thanks.
I do not like it at all. It would be okay if it matched the settings I set on my computer.
Thus, if I have transparent borders, then eDrawings can have transparent borders.
But, if I chose to have opaque borders as my setting for Windows, then eDrawings better follow suit and have opaque borders.
Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Personalization\Window Color and Appearance\
Enable transparency is OFF for me.
I see your point. We chose to go with the custom bordering to try ti maintain a family style between the difference eDrawings across all our distribution platforms. The color scheme was one that worked well with our logo and brand. However, with the recent efforts in restyling of SOLIDWORKS, we will be reevaluating the styling of eDrawings. So we will take your comment into consideration. Thanks.
I hate to say this, but I think Windows 8 users have spoken loud and clear: Do not mess with desktop type programs to make them look like mobile ones. Just look at Windows 10.
Modernizing is fine but keep the desktop the desktop. Tablet apps, sure make them more touch friendly. But to make a jarring change like this for the desktop version is NOT a productivity booster.
Examples of issues I found:
>The upper toolbar section of the window frequently moves off the top of the screen. I don't know if I'm bumping it somehow, but it moves.
>The program does not act like a Windows 7 program when you try to "tear it away" when it's maximized and you try to click on the header bar and move it. It just sits there unresponsive to your drag attempt.
>I don't like how it opens a completely new window every time you open another part or drawing. I'd prefer the sub-windows like before.
>PLEASE add a way to keep the File/View/Tools/Help toolbars always there, like the pin option in Solidworks,
>PLEASE add a 32 bit version download.
My 2 cents.
This also happens to me frequently when I try to go from a floating window and "snap" it to the top of the screen by dragging the top border to maximize (Windows 7 feature).
If I use the maximize button it works every time.
On some points I agree with you, especially around the technical behaviors or the UI. However, I'll have to respectfully disagree with your points regarding desktop versions really should look like traditional desktop apps. More and more the lines between UI on desktop/laptop/tablet/phablet/etc. are getting more blurry. PCs are now tablet PCs, you can have a fully touch enabled environment on a PC powered base. You can hold these mobile PCs with one hand and interact with the other. No longer trapped on the desk or your lap. So I feel that how we interact with the UI will have to evolve. We took a stab at addressing some of those touch-related ergonomics on how we may hold and interaction with the devices that run eDrawings on Windows. We may not have hit it out of the park, with this first design but we are sure going to do our best to hone it with what we have learned. Thanks for all your input.
Fair enough. The glitches I mentioned are still bothersome.
One more Issue I found recently since SP2.
If I have just one model open, it takes 10-12 seconds to close it down when I hit the "X".
If I have 2 or more open, all windows close down instantly except the last one, which always takes 10-12 seconds.
My largest issue was touched on by Andy. The program always opens windowed (never maximized) and the title bar is sometimes up off the top of the screen. This is not consistent with standard windows program behavior.
On multi-monitor environments, we have also had problems with the opened drawing being on screen A, and the UI being on screen B.
Also, it looks like Soldworks, eDrawings, and Solidworks Explorer were developed by three independent design teams from separate countries. None of them share any user interface themes.
I agree that some of these window behavior inconsistencies need to be ironed out. We are looking into this. Thanks for pointing out the issue with the multi-monitors. We will have to investigate more on why this is the case. As for the styling inconsistency with the other products, we are in the process of aligning our styling across our products. It will be a few releases before we are in sync.
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