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Question asked by Raivo Jakovels on Jun 27, 2014
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Hi!

Here I am with another problem from the same bag. I am trying to find out how circumference of an aluminum measuring wheel changes when temperature changes. I am using Static Study, with inertial relief and zero strain reference temperature +20° C in Flow/Thermal effects tab. Then I added External load -- Temperature(I tried both - above and below +20°C). The problem is: when I look at the deformed result - it is OK - the deformed part shrinks when temperature is below +20°C and expands when it is higher as you can see:

But when I make body from deformed shape, it is always the same when i open it in SW and chosing not to recognozie features. The circumference and other sizes stay the same. So I can't see the change in size. Any ideas? Model attached. Thanks in advance.

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Mike Pogue Jun 27, 2014 11:48 AM

I can't answer your question about saving the deformed body. But if the wheel is homogeneous, it would be easier to just scale the entire part by the appropriate factor, = 1 + (Delta T)*CTE. Youcan look up the CTE in the materials properties in silidworks.

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Raivo Jakovels @ Mike Pogue on Jun 27, 2014 3:12 PM

Thank You for interest and answer. I know this method, and its 100% linear. But the thing is - the deformed shape is totally as it should be if I use a simple brick with a hole through it. So where is the problem with my part?

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Jared Conway Jun 28, 2014 2:14 AM

What happens when you apply a restraint?

What do you mean about recognizing the feature?

If you analyze a cantilever beam what happens?

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Raivo Jakovels @ Jared Conway on Jun 30, 2014 2:18 AM

1)When I choose the hole as fixed(as it would be), nothing changes - the deformed model is still the same.

2)When I am opening deformed part, SW first asks if I want to proceed with feature recognition(I chooce No, cause otherwise it goes crazy - it cannot make up a logical part cause it is "deformed").

3)With a beam everything is totally OK - it expands as temperature increases and shrinks when T decreases. I mean - these changes are measureable in deformed part.

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Jared Conway @ Raivo Jakovels on Jul 1, 2014 9:07 PM

when you add a restraint, do you also disable soft springs/inertial releif?

recognizing the feature, now i understand, yes, featureworks would not be able to do the feature recognition

i suspect that you have something wrong with your setup. potentially the soft spring still enabled. i'd post your model here.

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Raivo Jakovels @ Jared Conway on Jul 2, 2014 4:37 AM

yes, inertial relief and soft springs are disabled. and the model is attached at the first post

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Jared Conway @ Raivo Jakovels on Jul 2, 2014 3:27 PM

post the most recent version with your restraint on it..etc.

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Mike Pogue Jun 27, 2014 11:48 AM
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I can't answer your question about saving the deformed body. But if the wheel is homogeneous, it would be easier to just scale the entire part by the appropriate factor, = 1 + (Delta T)*CTE. Youcan look up the CTE in the materials properties in silidworks.
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- Raivo Jakovels @ Mike Pogue on Jun 27, 2014 3:12 PM
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  Thank You for interest and answer. I know this method, and its 100% linear. But the thing is - the deformed shape is totally as it should be if I use a simple brick with a hole through it. So where is the problem with my part?
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Jared Conway Jun 28, 2014 2:14 AM
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What happens when you apply a restraint?

What do you mean about recognizing the feature?

If you analyze a cantilever beam what happens?
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- Raivo Jakovels @ Jared Conway on Jun 30, 2014 2:18 AM
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  1)When I choose the hole as fixed(as it would be), nothing changes - the deformed model is still the same.
  2)When I am opening deformed part, SW first asks if I want to proceed with feature recognition(I chooce No, cause otherwise it goes crazy - it cannot make up a logical part cause it is "deformed").
  3)With a beam everything is totally OK - it expands as temperature increases and shrinks when T decreases. I mean - these changes are measureable in deformed part.
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  - Jared Conway @ Raivo Jakovels on Jul 1, 2014 9:07 PM
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    when you add a restraint, do you also disable soft springs/inertial releif?
    
    recognizing the feature, now i understand, yes, featureworks would not be able to do the feature recognition
    
    i suspect that you have something wrong with your setup. potentially the soft spring still enabled. i'd post your model here.
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    - Raivo Jakovels @ Jared Conway on Jul 2, 2014 4:37 AM
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      yes, inertial relief and soft springs are disabled. and the model is attached at the first post
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      - Jared Conway @ Raivo Jakovels on Jul 2, 2014 3:27 PM
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        post the most recent version with your restraint on it..etc.
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