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Does anybody know how to make multiple belts that are made with the belt/chain feature to show up as one item on the BOM? Sometimes I use the same length belt in different places and I would like them to show up as one item on the BOM. I also had this issue when creating an opposite hand assembly using the mirror feature - even though the "create opposite hand version" option is turned off for the belt model, it still creates a copy. I assume this is because the belt is actually a feature of the assembly which has this option turned on. The belt/chain feature is a great tool and I've been using it like it's going out of style, but now I have a bunch of belts with quantity one on my BOM's and they're actually the same part.

Thanks,

Theo

Eric Fox Apr 24, 2014 9:16 AM

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Theo,

I don't use the Belt/Chain feature, but is it possible to do each belt as a different configuration in the same part file? (I'm not sure if the tool will even allow you to do this)

If so, then you could use the part configuration grouping options when inserting your BOM.

Again, not sure if this is possible with the tool, but may provide you with a suitable workaround.

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Ian Worrall Apr 24, 2014 3:04 AM

Drag the extra lines to the bottom of your BOM, then RMB on them & click "Hide selected".

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Denny Peter Apr 24, 2014 5:03 AM

Hi Theo

Hope exclude from BOM may work, RMB - component properties and select exclude from BOM

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Theo Holtzhausen Apr 24, 2014 7:44 AM

Denny,

Yea, that's what I've been doing. I exclude them from the BOM so only one is remaining and then edit the quantity. The only problem with this is it breaks the link with the assembly. That's not the worst thing in the world, I just wanted to see if anyone knows some trick to get them to show up as the same part.

Ian,

Your solution presents the same problem.

Thanks,

Theo

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Denny Peter Apr 24, 2014 7:52 AM

Hey Theo

Sorry, i have not communicated correctly. exculde the parts in assembly itself (if you have 50 links, exclude 49 numbers) thats what i showed in picture. so qty will be just one in drawing BOM

Hope others may give a better solution

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Theo Holtzhausen @ Denny Peter on Apr 24, 2014 7:57 AM

Denny,

That's what I gathered from your original post, and that's what I did. Maybe I'm not being clear - I want one line item that shows qty 50, not one line item that shows qty 1, or 50 line items that show qty 1.

Thanks,

Theo

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Ian Worrall @ Denny Peter on Apr 24, 2014 8:10 AM

OK. Try this. (from the help file) :-

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Theo Holtzhausen @ Ian Worrall on Apr 24, 2014 8:45 AM

Ian,

I wasn't aware of this option... learned something new today. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for this since the belts are actually seperate models. That option will allow you to combine the same model that is used in different sub-assemblies. The issue with the belts are you can use the same belt in different places, but each time the belt/chain feature is used it makes a seperate virtual model.

So, I guess the real question is - can you combine multiple models to one line item on a BOM?

Thanks,

Theo

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Denny Peter Apr 24, 2014 8:05 AM

Theo Holtzhausen wrote:

Does anybody know how to make multiple belts that are made with the belt/chain feature to show up as one item on the BOM? Sometimes I use the same length belt in different places and I would like them to show up as one item on the BOM. I also had this issue when creating an opposite hand assembly using the mirror feature - even though the "create opposite hand version" option is turned off for the belt model, it still creates a copy. I assume this is because the belt is actually a feature of the assembly which has this option turned on. The belt/chain feature is a great tool and I've been using it like it's going out of style, but now I have a bunch of belts with quantity one on my BOM's and they're actually the same part.

Thanks,
Theo

Theo

This shows different, thats why confused, possible to update an image of your BOM

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Theo Holtzhausen @ Denny Peter on Apr 24, 2014 8:47 AM

Denny,

I would like the 4 line items of qty 1 each, to show up as 1 line item of qty 4.

Thanks,

Theo

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Eric Fox @ Theo Holtzhausen on Apr 24, 2014 9:16 AM

Theo,

I don't use the Belt/Chain feature, but is it possible to do each belt as a different configuration in the same part file? (I'm not sure if the tool will even allow you to do this)

If so, then you could use the part configuration grouping options when inserting your BOM.

Again, not sure if this is possible with the tool, but may provide you with a suitable workaround.

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Theo Holtzhausen @ Eric Fox on Apr 24, 2014 9:38 AM

Eric,

Your exact recommendation doesn't work because each time the belt/chain feature is used it creates a separate part. BUT, surprisingly the third option on your image above "display configurations with the same name as one item" works! If I edit the configuration properties, enter the same user specified name for each part, and select this option then it works. I assumed this option's for multiple configurations within the same part, but apparently not. SUCCESS!!!

Thanks,

Theo

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Eric Fox @ Theo Holtzhausen on Apr 24, 2014 9:40 AM

Theo,

Glad some of my musings actually worked!

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Ian Worrall Apr 24, 2014 3:04 AM
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Drag the extra lines to the bottom of your BOM, then RMB on them & click "Hide selected".
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Denny Peter Apr 24, 2014 5:03 AM
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Hi Theo

Hope exclude from BOM may work, RMB - component properties and select exclude from BOM
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Theo Holtzhausen Apr 24, 2014 7:44 AM
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Denny,
Yea, that's what I've been doing. I exclude them from the BOM so only one is remaining and then edit the quantity. The only problem with this is it breaks the link with the assembly. That's not the worst thing in the world, I just wanted to see if anyone knows some trick to get them to show up as the same part.

Ian,
Your solution presents the same problem.

Thanks,
Theo
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Denny Peter Apr 24, 2014 7:52 AM
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Hey Theo

Sorry, i have not communicated correctly. exculde the parts in assembly itself (if you have 50 links, exclude 49 numbers) thats what i showed in picture. so qty will be just one in drawing BOM

Hope others may give a better solution
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- Theo Holtzhausen @ Denny Peter on Apr 24, 2014 7:57 AM
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  Denny,
  That's what I gathered from your original post, and that's what I did. Maybe I'm not being clear - I want one line item that shows qty 50, not one line item that shows qty 1, or 50 line items that show qty 1.
  
  Thanks,
  Theo
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- Ian Worrall @ Denny Peter on Apr 24, 2014 8:10 AM
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  OK. Try this. (from the help file) :-
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  - Theo Holtzhausen @ Ian Worrall on Apr 24, 2014 8:45 AM
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    Ian,
    I wasn't aware of this option... learned something new today. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for this since the belts are actually seperate models. That option will allow you to combine the same model that is used in different sub-assemblies. The issue with the belts are you can use the same belt in different places, but each time the belt/chain feature is used it makes a seperate virtual model.
    
    So, I guess the real question is - can you combine multiple models to one line item on a BOM?
    
    Thanks,
    Theo
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Denny Peter Apr 24, 2014 8:05 AM
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Theo Holtzhausen wrote:

Does anybody know how to make multiple belts that are made with the belt/chain feature to show up as one item on the BOM? Sometimes I use the same length belt in different places and I would like them to show up as one item on the BOM. I also had this issue when creating an opposite hand assembly using the mirror feature - even though the "create opposite hand version" option is turned off for the belt model, it still creates a copy. I assume this is because the belt is actually a feature of the assembly which has this option turned on. The belt/chain feature is a great tool and I've been using it like it's going out of style, but now I have a bunch of belts with quantity one on my BOM's and they're actually the same part.

Thanks,
Theo
Theo

This shows different, thats why confused, possible to update an image of your BOM
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- Theo Holtzhausen @ Denny Peter on Apr 24, 2014 8:47 AM
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  Denny,
  I would like the 4 line items of qty 1 each, to show up as 1 line item of qty 4.
  
  Thanks,
  Theo
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  - Eric Fox @ Theo Holtzhausen on Apr 24, 2014 9:16 AM
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    Theo,
    
    I don't use the Belt/Chain feature, but is it possible to do each belt as a different configuration in the same part file? (I'm not sure if the tool will even allow you to do this)
    
    If so, then you could use the part configuration grouping options when inserting your BOM.
    
    Again, not sure if this is possible with the tool, but may provide you with a suitable workaround.
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    - Theo Holtzhausen @ Eric Fox on Apr 24, 2014 9:38 AM
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      Eric,
      Your exact recommendation doesn't work because each time the belt/chain feature is used it creates a separate part. BUT, surprisingly the third option on your image above "display configurations with the same name as one item" works! If I edit the configuration properties, enter the same user specified name for each part, and select this option then it works. I assumed this option's for multiple configurations within the same part, but apparently not. SUCCESS!!!
      
      Thanks,
      Theo
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      - Eric Fox @ Theo Holtzhausen on Apr 24, 2014 9:40 AM
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        Theo,
        
        Glad some of my musings actually worked!
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