Why Undo-redo doesnt work correctly in solidworks. why anybody doesn't want to this?
Does anyone have idea?
Can you provide a concrete example?
This might be extreme example, but -
In Autodesk Inventor I can Undo back to the beginning of a file and Redo everything I undid (during a session).
In Autodesk Inventor I can open a file, create features, undo clear back to the file closing, Redo and the file opens and Redo clear forward step-by-redo-step to all the features I just undid. (and that is without even saving the file with the new features)
In class, I always have to hesitate during a demonstration and think, "Now is this something I can Redo in SolidWorks if I decide I want it back?" Always makes SWx look bad when I can't. (which is most of the time) Hmmm, I better do a Save Copy As just in case.....
Can you provide a concrete example? (Alin Vargatu)
Do you make a design with solidworks? (Alin Vargatu)... are you sure for asking this question. I think you dont use solidworks extensively.
I know using most of cad program and they dont have this problem.. For example, you can use undo and redo unlimited on inventor, moreover all envoirement.
in addition I have registered spr about this subject .
Thanks for your reply. What is the SPR #?
Basically the same answer as to your other question. The managers at SolidWorks were happy enough that they had an Undo-Redo that worked in demos and they didn't get enough existing customers screaming about how poorly it worked in real life to fix it.
I suspect that the folks who wrote the original Undo-Redo code didn't do a very good job of it. No one noticed at the time. Once they realized that it had problems, it was too deeply buried in other code to easily fix it, so they band-aided it as best they could. As the code continued to increase in size it got harder and harder to do anything about it.
PS. For what it is worth, I have the impression that Undo-Redo in Creo is not bullet-proof either.
Just to pile on: I have never, not one time in 13 years, seen the redo button do anything.
Thank you so much Jerry. We should want to this from solidworks. this is a bug. it cannot be enhancement...
hi again, why doesn't users complain about this subject?
One reason is that it is a rather lengthy process to get a bug entered into the system. Lots of people are too busy trying to get their job done to take the time to push bugs to SolidWorks. Some of them went through it years ago and grew discouraged when their bugs never seemed to get fixed.
The more people who complain (not here, but through the SPR process), the more pressure it puts on SW and the quicker they get fixed.
This is not the forum to get bugs fixed. One needs to work through their reseller to get SPR's for bugs. Or the Customer Portal to log an Enhancement Request.
For me personally I do not see this as an issue. Never has bothered me so I have not complained about this subject.
I think you dont make a design professionally and intensively (Anna Wood) . thank you
I don't know if it's intentional, although I don't see how it could fail to be, but you've been insulting to both Anna and Alin in this discussion. Although I've never met either of them, I know from almost five years of following this forum that they're both always very knowledgeable and willing to take time to help other people. If you want help from people on this forum I would suggest you change your attitude. If you only want to complain then go ahead, and I for one will no longer reply.
No No, you are not right. ıf it has been like this, sorry
If you've ever tried to record macros, you would see that SW does not do a good job of recording all of the actions a user takes. I suspect the same is true for the undo/redo functions.
Every time I've decided I didn't want to undo something after all, SW labels that button "Can't redo".
From my experience every time I've used the undo for something it works okay but when I try to redo them it doesn't work.
Anna Wood wrote: This is not the forum to get bugs fixed. One needs to work through their reseller to get SPR's for bugs. Or the Customer Portal to log an Enhancement Request. For me personally I do not see this as an issue. Never has bothered me so I have not complained about this subject. FWIW, Anna
Anna Wood wrote:
Where is the forum to get bugs issues fixed?
I prefer to use an open forum to discuss issues as often I find that I simply didn't fully understand the issue myself. By getting input from a lot of different users I can more clearly understand the problems. That is what is great about internet as a "collaboratory" (collaboration laboratory).
I have never been very impressed with SPR process or Enhancement Request lists. I like to dig deep into issues in an open forum discussion. We also need to keep in mind that some participants do not speak english as a first language and therefore might not communicate their input as well as others.
While you don't see this as an issue (hard for something to really bother you, when the funtionality never existed) I can tell you from my experience it really makes SolidWorks look bad. Because I teach 3 different MCAD programs every week - I see the issues with each of the three that give students problems. If I worked for a VAR of any one of the three, I could make the other two look like trash. Several years of a varied experience brings out the issues in an particular comparable software. They are more alike than they are different, but sometimes the differences are more than just differences - they are legitimate issues that could be addressed.
I have a significant list of "issues" with each of the three products I use. Sometimes I find out through open discussion that the real issue was my lack of understanding of the problem directly related to the particular software. When I discover something like that, I can cross that issue off of my list. I am pretty sure the undo/redo issue is an issue with SolidWorks that I would be sure to work up in my dog and pony show if I worked for a VAR representing the competition.
I should have worded my answer differently. Good place for discussion of issues is on the forum. But people need to put in Enhancement Requests and Bug reports to their resellers. That is how SolidWorks works to prioritize issues.
If an issue means enough to an individual to make several posts here to the forums, then one needs to make time to make bug reports and enhancement requests through the proper channels.
i want to join you in this complain
when i want to undo one step back
i hit the undo button but the program starts to undo a lot of steps and make me upset and i lose a lot of steps i already finished and i have to do it again
so i share you the consolation
best regards to you all and a special thanks for Yazgan Demirel
Tareq, you are not alone with the problem of undo erasing many steps. See this discussion:UNDO Issues / File Reverting Issue! Please help...
Unfortunately nobody has offered a cause or solution.
I see this problem mainly in drawings. If I want to `undo' a dimension I just placed, SW will also undo at least one of the previous dimensions. This is inconvenient and has been happening like this for a long time. On the modeling side undo will work for me when I have mistakenly deleted a component. For other changes, I have gotten used to simply editing the sketch or feature rather than taking a chance with undo or redo.
As far as getting bugs reported, that has always been a problem as well. The suggested way (by SW) is to contact your reseller and have them verify the issue. If they can repeat it then it sometimes will get reported to SW. This does take a lot of time and effort on the part of the user. We don't get paid for this sort of thing, so often we live with the issue. I have also found that many support people don't really get very enthusiastic about confirming bugs. I have always assumed that this is because SW itself does not encourage them to do so. They would like their resellers to live `Home on the Range' as in the words to the old American folk song: "Never is heard a discouraging word, and the skies are not cloudy all day". Let's face it-the resellers make their money selling software. That is the main flaw in having to count on them for support.
For that reason, I will often come to this forum to get an issue confirmed before going to the trouble of contacting my reseller. As far as Yazgan's tone in his replies to Anna and others, I did notice that when I read through this thread. I assume that English is not his native language and that this contributed to the fact that he sounded rude. It is also natural to be frustrated when a tool you have paid a lot of money for doesn't work as well as you would like, but I also think some extra care should be taken to show respect for people in forums like this. Anna has helped me often over the years. As far as my feelings about SW software goes, I would say the word `resigned' sums it up. If they are happy with users feeling that way then I suppose nothing will change.
This not a bug, however it is a VERY severe limitation.
From 2013 SOLIDWORKS Help - Basic Commands: Cut, Copy, Paste, Undo, and Redo
RedoReverses recent Undo commands, when possible. Redo is available only for sketches in part and assembly documents.
Reverses recent Undo commands, when possible. Redo is available only for sketches in part and assembly documents.
SW should remove this limitation ASAP ... whether it appeared in the SWW2015 Top Ten Ideas or not.
Yeah, SW undo command is pretty worthless. I just accidentally deleted a configuration and found that that action is one of the many thousand that can't be undone. I think the issue is that SW programmers spend all their time CREATING problems, and not FIXING problems. It's a very subtle distinction and I sympathize with them not being able to see the difference.
I have always hated this aspect of SW - the lack of undo (and non-existent redo). As you point out in your reply, anyone who teaches CAD utilizes undo and redo continually to help get points across or to review what was done. This inability in SW makes the job that much more difficult. I can't think of another program I use that doesn't allow for undo and redo. Most programs I use allow the end user to define how many states they want this to go in both directions history-wise.
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