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Assembly does not go transparent when editing a part within.

Question asked by Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014
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When editing a part within an assembly, the rest of the assembly does not go transparent. The “Assembly transparency for in context edit” is grayed out when this file is open so I cannot change anything there from the drop down. I’ve tried it on other machines and everything goes transparent as it should. I have opened other assemblies and even sub-assemblies from this assembly in the problem machine and everything works as it should. If it was something in the installation on this machine, I would think that it would affect all assemblies not just one. It seems to be something between this machine and one file.

Anyone have any idea of what the problem might be? I’ve done a search on the forum and in general and have not found anything that has helped.

Thanks

Ken

Dell T7600

24 gig ram

Nvidia K2000

SW2012 SP5

Kenneth Dale Jan 23, 2014 4:13 PM

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This seems to have corrected itself some way. I have no idea of how or why. I did shut down SolidWorks to run the RX tool with it running an not running. I also manually turned a couple of parts transparent. I have not changed a thing but now the transparency works as it should when I edit a part inside the assembly. This problem appeared yesterday and the computer was shut down over night so shutting SolidWorks down today should have have had no effect. Searched and worked on this for several hours but still loss for why it happened.

I do thank all of you for trying to help. Until this happens again i have no way to duplicate what happened or how it might be fixed.

Will be moving to SW2014 in a couple of weeks so maybe it will never show up again.

Again, thanks for your help.

Ken

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Some more information on this issue.

I have found that if I load the file as a resolved file then the everything works as it should. The assembly goes transparnent expect for the part being edited. I had the large assembly option set at 500 componets (I think that it was defaulted to there) and my assembly had 1197 components so it was loading in light mode. I tried changing from light mode to resolved in the tree but that does not solve the assembly transparent issue. I reset the large assembly component count to 5000 and it defaults to resolved mode and everything works as should. Have not tried it but I'm sure if I load an assembly that has over 5000 parts then the assembly transparency thing would apear again.

Hope this help others.

Ken

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Steve Calvert Jan 22, 2014 7:45 AM

Do you have "Large Assembly" mode turned on? That might have something to do with it...

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Kenneth Dale @ Steve Calvert on Jan 22, 2014 9:15 AM

Steve:

Thanks for the reply. I do have the "Large Assembly" turned on. I turned it off but it did not make any difference. I did notice something odd that i had not noticed before, This assembly has 3 fans for air flow, two of those fans are the same and one is differnt. The two fans that are the same do become transparent when I edit a part within the assembly. Those are the only part of the assembly that go transparent. I'm at a lose as to why it only happens on this one machine and with only this assembly.

Ken

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Steve Calvert @ Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014 9:59 AM

I just did a test on an assembly and came to the same conclusion. I also had some parts not change to transparent. That sounds like a video issue.

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Kelvin Lamport @ Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014 10:18 AM

When in the assy, can you manually change the transparency of it's components?

Does the SolidWorks Rx tool report any problems?

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Kenneth Dale @ Kelvin Lamport on Jan 22, 2014 10:31 AM

Steve:

I am using the recommended driver (310.90) for my card. I will try some different setting to see if that helps.

Kelvin:

Everything has a green check except "Could not open the service pack database, the server may be busy, please try again later" and "Toolbox loaded on local drive". Those two have a yellow "X". I don't see that the Toolbox would have anything to do with the problem but not sure about the service pack thing.

Ken

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Kenneth Dale @ Kelvin Lamport on Jan 22, 2014 10:33 AM

Kelvin:

Forgot to mention that i can manually change the transparency of any of the parts in the assembly.

Ken

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Kelvin Lamport @ Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014 10:50 AM

As it appears to be file specific, all I can suggest is to get your VAR involved. They or SW may be able to interrogate the file and hopefully correct whatever is causing the problem.

EDIT: OK ... too late now.

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Kenneth Dale @ Kelvin Lamport on Jan 23, 2014 4:13 PM

I do thank all of you for trying to help. Until this happens again i have no way to duplicate what happened or how it might be fixed.

Will be moving to SW2014 in a couple of weeks so maybe it will never show up again.

Again, thanks for your help.

Ken

EDIT:

Some more information on this issue.

Hope this help others.

Ken

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Steve Calvert Jan 22, 2014 7:45 AM
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Do you have "Large Assembly" mode turned on? That might have something to do with it...

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- Kenneth Dale @ Steve Calvert on Jan 22, 2014 9:15 AM
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  Thanks for the reply. I do have the "Large Assembly" turned on. I turned it off but it did not make any difference. I did notice something odd that i had not noticed before, This assembly has 3 fans for air flow, two of those fans are the same and one is differnt. The two fans that are the same do become transparent when I edit a part within the assembly. Those are the only part of the assembly that go transparent. I'm at a lose as to why it only happens on this one machine and with only this assembly.
  
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  - Steve Calvert @ Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014 9:59 AM
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    I just did a test on an assembly and came to the same conclusion. I also had some parts not change to transparent. That sounds like a video issue.
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  - Kelvin Lamport @ Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014 10:18 AM
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    When in the assy, can you manually change the transparency of it's components?
    
    Does the SolidWorks Rx tool report any problems?
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    - Kenneth Dale @ Kelvin Lamport on Jan 22, 2014 10:31 AM
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      Steve:
      
      I am using the recommended driver (310.90) for my card. I will try some different setting to see if that helps.
      
      Kelvin:
      
      Everything has a green check except "Could not open the service pack database, the server may be busy, please try again later" and "Toolbox loaded on local drive". Those two have a yellow "X". I don't see that the Toolbox would have anything to do with the problem but not sure about the service pack thing.
      
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    - Kenneth Dale @ Kelvin Lamport on Jan 22, 2014 10:33 AM
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      Kelvin:
      
      Forgot to mention that i can manually change the transparency of any of the parts in the assembly.
      
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      - Kelvin Lamport @ Kenneth Dale on Jan 22, 2014 10:50 AM
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        As it appears to be file specific, all I can suggest is to get your VAR involved. They or SW may be able to interrogate the file and hopefully correct whatever is causing the problem.
        
        EDIT: OK ... too late now.
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    - Kenneth Dale @ Kelvin Lamport on Jan 23, 2014 4:13 PM
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      This seems to have corrected itself some way. I have no idea of how or why. I did shut down SolidWorks to run the RX tool with it running an not running. I also manually turned a couple of parts transparent. I have not changed a thing but now the transparency works as it should when I edit a part inside the assembly. This problem appeared yesterday and the computer was shut down over night so shutting SolidWorks down today should have have had no effect. Searched and worked on this for several hours but still loss for why it happened.
      I do thank all of you for trying to help. Until this happens again i have no way to duplicate what happened or how it might be fixed.
      Will be moving to SW2014 in a couple of weeks so maybe it will never show up again.
      Again, thanks for your help.
      
      Ken
      
      EDIT:
      Some more information on this issue.
      I have found that if I load the file as a resolved file then the everything works as it should. The assembly goes transparnent expect for the part being edited. I had the large assembly option set at 500 componets (I think that it was defaulted to there) and my assembly had 1197 components so it was loading in light mode. I tried changing from light mode to resolved in the tree but that does not solve the assembly transparent issue. I reset the large assembly component count to 5000 and it defaults to resolved mode and everything works as should. Have not tried it but I'm sure if I load an assembly that has over 5000 parts then the assembly transparency thing would apear again.
      Hope this help others.
      
      Ken
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