8 Replies Latest reply on Jan 6, 2014 9:33 AM by Theo Linders

    Computer dedicated to SolidWorks Simulation?

    John Doe

      Hello,

       

      Ive been asked to build a comptuer completely geared towards SolidWorks Simulation 2012 for my boss, going as far as to match (or even beat) RussJ's liquid cool 4.50 ghz benchmark, which I find hard to do.

       

      Starting off, I have no idea what SolidWorks Simulation 2012 is for or anything. Im just consulting as IT.

       

      Im read around and basically it comes down to clockspeed. This includes the ability to overclock with liquid (water) cooling.

       

      The ONLY part I have of this future PC right now is four Dell 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) modules for a total of 32GB of RAM....meaning we will quad channel this as well...

       

      I know there are better RAMs out there but its stupid not to use this and spend money on other chips.

       

      Everyones other question: Budget. He said I can use any budget I want (company pays for it) as long as its reasonable (no supercomputers for 15000€ for example) for the price-to-preformance. Personally I think 3000-4000€ is more than enough.

       

      Im missing:

       

      Processor (Intel's high end i7 K line I believe is good for this and overclocking)

      Motherboard (Asus is great at overclocking but must be compatible with the RAM listed above and quad channeling. Need to have the ability to RAID0)

      PSU (Since we will be overclocking, I guess it was to be able to hold this. Seasonic was good back in the day)

      SSD (Samsung Pro 840 series will be enough for this, maybe two for RAID0. I dont need space as we load/save off a NAS)

      Video card (No idea here since it needs to be professional)

      Case and cooling (I put this together because since this will be liquid cool for getting the maximium performance, I need to know what kit to get. Ive never done overclocking using liquid so Im not sure how that goes)

      DVD (to load Windows and programs)

       

      I think Im not missing anything. Mouse and keyboard whatever. Monitor Ill have to talk to him about it although any decent one will be enough.

       

       

       

      Thank you

       

        • Re: Computer dedicated to SolidWorks Simulation?
          John Doe

          I got a quick list put together (some parts missing):  Intel Core i7-4770K 278.10€ Asrock Z87 OC Formula 255.25€ Seasonic X650W SemiFANLESS 147.50€ Samsung 840 Pro SSD Series 256GB 194.30€ Asus DRW-24F1ST 14.80€  Comes out (missing shipping) 889.95€ and we are missing a case, video card, and cooling equipment.

          • Re: Computer dedicated to SolidWorks Simulation?
            John Doe

            Got three configs here:

            Mine:

            Intel Core i7-3930K 6 cores 508€
            Seasonic X650W SemiFANLESS 147.50€
            Samsung 840 Pro SSD Series 256GB 194.30€
            Asus DRW-24F1ST 14.80€
            NZXT H630 134€
            Noctua NH-D14 68€
            Quadro K2000 382€
            ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 287,99 €
            Arctic Silver 5 3.5gr 7,25 €


            1743,84 € (excluding shipping and these are prices from different stores)

             

             


            Typical:

            SAVE QUOTE
            PART# DESCRIPTION

            PRICE
            00013 XiR MTowerT PCIe Workstation (Base Configuration) $1,079.00
            01859 IntelR CoreT i7-4770K @ 4.1GHz Silent Air Cooling w/12cm Fan 8MB
            Shared L3 Cache DMI 2.0 Quad-Core 4th Gen. 22nm w/Artic SilverR 5 Thermal
            Compound $299.00
            02260 16GB DDR3 1866MHz CorsairR Vengeance Heatspread (Z87 or X79 MoBo
            only) $199.00
            04471 NVIDIAR QuadroR K2000 2GB DDR5 KeplerT Architecture PCIe 16x 2.0-1x
            DVI-DL-2xDP-1x Stereo-Dual Head-3D Pro Support-DX11-OGL 4.3- Shad.M 5.0
            $399.00
            05015 No Monitor (credit) ($100.00)
            03183 250GB Solid State Drive SamsungR 840 EVOT SATA 6Gb/s 540/520MB/s
            Seq.R/W <.3ms seek Shock Resistant 1500G. $159.00
            32129 Optional 1TB 7200RPM SATA Gb/s SeagateR BarracudaT 64MB Cache NCQ
            ST1000DM003 $89.00
            17012 HDD Std Ctrl. accordingly to Motherboard and HDD Type Selected
            Incl. w/ Base
            23011 SATA/SAS bay module accordingly to case selected, May require add'l
            controller to support SAS drives. Incl. w/ Base
            06061 DVD+RW/DL/+R-R/CD-RW Double Media 4.7/8.5GB 18x $29.00
            09007 On-Board sound accordingly to motherboard specifications
            Incl. w/ Base
            12001 On-Board Network port(s) accordingly to motherboard specifications
            Incl. w/ Base
            13001 LogitechR Corded Black Windows Keyboard Incl. w/ Base
            14010 LogitechR Corded 2+ Wheel Mouse Black Optical Incl. w/ Base
            16084 Genuine MicrosoftR WindowsR 7 Professional Edition 64Bit on DVD
            (32Bit & XP Pro downgrade avail. on request) $59.00
            35022 McAfeeR VirusScanR Plus Anti-virus/Anti-Spyware/Firewall/Web Site
            Safety Rating one year w/media OEM (WSL) Incl. w/ Base
            35025 Mouse Pad & Balsa Glider w/ Xi logo. (Assorted, design may vary).
            Incl. w/ Base
            20090 Resource Media - contains Diagnostic links & Drivers Incl. w/
            Base
            20091 @Xi Computer User's Guide Manual (PDF) Incl. w/ Base
            22287 ASUSR Z87-PRO IntelR Z87 Express C.S-2xPCIe 3.0/2.0x16-1xPCIe
            2.0x16(x4)-4xPCIe 2.0x1-Dual Ch.DDR3 2800(OC)/1333-1xGb LAN-WiFi GO!-BT- 6xSATA6Gbs-2xSATA6Gbs RAID 0/1/5/10-HD Audio-8CH-8x/6xUSB
            2.0/3.0-DVI-HDMI-DP1.2-SLI&CFX Supp. $79.00
            44041 720W 12cm Silent Fan- +12V Rails- ATX12V / EPS12V PSU (or otherwise
            superseded by embedded Case/PS) Incl. w/ Base
            27148 XiR MTowerT CM-HAF 922 High Ventilation 2x20cm+1x12cm Quiet Fans
            -Front & Side Grid-2x FrontUSB+eSATA- 5x 5 1/4" 5x 3 1/2" $49.00
            18001 Standard Xi Warranty w/Express Advance Parts Replacement, One Year
            on System, Mfg. on Monitor Incl. w/ Base
            47002 NEMA 5-15P to C13 Wall Plug, 125 Volt, 16AWG, 5 Feet. Standard
            Computer AC power Cord Incl. w/ Base


            Total Delivered (shipping included):
            $2,643.42 (1950,34 €)

             

             


            Hi end:

            PRICE
            00013 XiR MTowerT PCIe Workstation (Base Configuration) $1,079.00
            01859 IntelR CoreT i7-4770K @ 4.1GHz Silent Air Cooling w/12cm Fan 8MB
            Shared L3 Cache DMI 2.0 Quad-Core 4th Gen. 22nm w/Artic SilverR 5 Thermal
            Compound $299.00
            02262 32GB DDR3 1866MHz CorsairR Vengeance Heatspread 4x 8GB (Z87 or X79
            MoBo only) $439.00
            04472 NVIDIAR QuadroR K4000 3GB DDR5 KeplerT Architecture PCIe 16x 2.0-1x
            DVI-DL-2xDP-1x Stereo-Dual Head-3D Pro Support-DX11-OGL 4.3- Shad.M 5.0
            $729.00
            05015 No Monitor (credit) ($100.00)
            03182 500GB Solid State Drive SamsungR 840 EVOT SATA 6Gb/s 540/520MB/s
            Seq.R/W <.3ms seek Shock Resistant 1500G. $329.00
            32129 Optional 1TB 7200RPM SATA Gb/s SeagateR BarracudaT 64MB Cache NCQ
            ST1000DM003 $89.00
            17012 HDD Std Ctrl. accordingly to Motherboard and HDD Type Selected
            Incl. w/ Base
            23011 SATA/SAS bay module accordingly to case selected, May require add'l
            controller to support SAS drives. Incl. w/ Base
            06061 DVD+RW/DL/+R-R/CD-RW Double Media 4.7/8.5GB 18x $29.00
            09007 On-Board sound accordingly to motherboard specifications
            Incl. w/ Base
            12001 On-Board Network port(s) accordingly to motherboard specifications
            Incl. w/ Base
            13001 LogitechR Corded Black Windows Keyboard Incl. w/ Base
            14010 LogitechR Corded 2+ Wheel Mouse Black Optical Incl. w/ Base
            16084 Genuine MicrosoftR WindowsR 7 Professional Edition 64Bit on DVD
            (32Bit & XP Pro downgrade avail. on request) $59.00
            35022 McAfeeR VirusScanR Plus Anti-virus/Anti-Spyware/Firewall/Web Site
            Safety Rating one year w/media OEM (WSL) Incl. w/ Base
            35025 Mouse Pad & Balsa Glider w/ Xi logo. (Assorted, design may vary).
            Incl. w/ Base
            20090 Resource Media - contains Diagnostic links & Drivers Incl. w/
            Base
            20091 @Xi Computer User's Guide Manual (PDF) Incl. w/ Base
            22287 ASUSR Z87-PRO IntelR Z87 Express C.S-2xPCIe 3.0/2.0x16-1xPCIe
            2.0x16(x4)-4xPCIe 2.0x1-Dual Ch.DDR3 2800(OC)/1333-1xGb LAN-WiFi GO!-BT- 6xSATA6Gbs-2xSATA6Gbs RAID 0/1/5/10-HD Audio-8CH-8x/6xUSB
            2.0/3.0-DVI-HDMI-DP1.2-SLI&CFX Supp. $79.00
            44041 720W 12cm Silent Fan- +12V Rails- ATX12V / EPS12V PSU (or otherwise
            superseded by embedded Case/PS) Incl. w/ Base
            27148 XiR MTowerT CM-HAF 922 High Ventilation 2x20cm+1x12cm Quiet Fans
            -Front & Side Grid-2x FrontUSB+eSATA- 5x 5 1/4" 5x 3 1/2" $49.00
            18001 Standard Xi Warranty w/Express Advance Parts Replacement, One Year
            on System, Mfg. on Monitor Incl. w/ Base
            47002 NEMA 5-15P to C13 Wall Plug, 125 Volt, 16AWG, 5 Feet. Standard
            Computer AC power Cord Incl. w/ Base


            Total Delivered (shipping included):
            $3,331.62 (2457.75 €)


            The ones from Xi Computers I can touch even further as for example we dont need the RAM so I can lower that and upgrade the processor....

            • Re: Computer dedicated to SolidWorks Simulation?
              Jerry Steiger

              John,

               

              If your boss is going to be running just SolidWorks Simulation, then any SolidWorks certified graphics card and driver will do. Spending more money on a really nice graphics card is usually not a good idea. You spend a lot of money for very little improvment. The FirePro V4900 is the best bang for the buck, but ask your boss, as some people are Nvidia people and won't touch a FirePro.

               

              Jerry S.

              • Re: Computer dedicated to SolidWorks Simulation?
                Theo Linders

                The components that are most important is processor and RAM memory

                and ofcourse the HD, Simulation saves and reads a lot from the HD and a

                fast HD works better (with enough free space ofcourse)

                The graphics are not that important when you are "just" doint the calculations,