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Question asked by Derek Feng on Oct 17, 2013
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Hi,

From the drop down menu of 'select' we can use 'select suppressed/hidden' to select all the suppressed/hidden components. It is great, but the problem is if the hidden/suppressed component is in a subassembly, it is not shown in the Feature Manager directly. I found out that they were still selected (I noticed when I expanded the tree). But if they were not shown, a lot of times I did't know (or did't remember) where they were. I think this defeats the purpose of the function partially.

I don't know if it is about the FM or the Select tool, but is there a way to do the 'select suppressed' and have the feature tree automatically expands those subassemblies with suppressed components inside?

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Kelvin Lamport Oct 18, 2013 11:42 AM

That would be a potentially very dangerous option to have. If a sub-assy were used in other top level assys, altering the supression states of it's components could drastically affect the other TL assys.

Supression states of sub-assy components should be controlled with configurations at the sub-assy level.

Some users have already reported problems by inadvertently using the recent ability to delete sub-assy components while not being in edit mode for those sub-assys. That is another potentially dangerous situation.

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Derek Feng @ Kelvin Lamport on Oct 18, 2013 12:18 PM

Hi Kelvin,

Thanks for your reply.

What you suggested made sense, we should know what we are doing before we make changes that might potentially affect something else. But I don't think simply showing the unsuppressed items in the tree is a dangerous option.

And I think it maybe more dangerous as what it is now. Now when we do 'select suppressed', all the suppressed items are selected no matter they are in the TLA or the subassemblies (the tree doesn't display to their levels directly, but if you manually expand the tree, you can see they are selected). There must be a reason you do 'select suppressed'. If it happened to be you want to unsuppress all of them just in the TLA level, unfortunately doing unsuppress will unsuppress all the items including those in the subassembly levels without you knowing it because although the tree doesn't display to their levels, they are indeed selected. And that becomes a good reason for the tree to show all the unsuppressed items because you can then see all the consequences of your action, and maybe unselect some of them that you don't intend to.

If the reason for 'select suppressed' is just to highlight the suppressed item in the TLA, then I don't think it's that helpful because they are automatically shown as suppressed from the tree as gray.

I hope I made myself clear.

Thanks.

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Kelvin Lamport Oct 18, 2013 11:42 AM
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That would be a potentially very dangerous option to have. If a sub-assy were used in other top level assys, altering the supression states of it's components could drastically affect the other TL assys.

Supression states of sub-assy components should be controlled with configurations at the sub-assy level.

Some users have already reported problems by inadvertently using the recent ability to delete sub-assy components while not being in edit mode for those sub-assys. That is another potentially dangerous situation.
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- Derek Feng @ Kelvin Lamport on Oct 18, 2013 12:18 PM
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  Hi Kelvin,
  
  Thanks for your reply.
  
  What you suggested made sense, we should know what we are doing before we make changes that might potentially affect something else. But I don't think simply showing the unsuppressed items in the tree is a dangerous option.
  
  And I think it maybe more dangerous as what it is now. Now when we do 'select suppressed', all the suppressed items are selected no matter they are in the TLA or the subassemblies (the tree doesn't display to their levels directly, but if you manually expand the tree, you can see they are selected). There must be a reason you do 'select suppressed'. If it happened to be you want to unsuppress all of them just in the TLA level, unfortunately doing unsuppress will unsuppress all the items including those in the subassembly levels without you knowing it because although the tree doesn't display to their levels, they are indeed selected. And that becomes a good reason for the tree to show all the unsuppressed items because you can then see all the consequences of your action, and maybe unselect some of them that you don't intend to.
  
  If the reason for 'select suppressed' is just to highlight the suppressed item in the TLA, then I don't think it's that helpful because they are automatically shown as suppressed from the tree as gray.
  
  I hope I made myself clear.
  
  Thanks.
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