8 Replies Latest reply on Oct 8, 2013 2:46 PM by Dustin Biber

    To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?

    Jonathan Bolz

      Hi All,


      I believe I should probably "Know" this by now BUT I obviously don't understand all of it @ 100% so it's back to the researching mode and asking for H.E.L.P.


      Sorry, no definition for that acronym just wanted it to stand out a little. How about - (H)iring (E)veryone else to (L)ook at your (P)roblem......


      Okay, I'm (self) studying this at home with a set of textbooks by Authors: Paul Tran (Amazon.com) CSWP, CSWI, SolidWorks 2012 Part-1 - Basic Tools, Parts, Assemblies and Drawings. Also Author: Davis Planchard CSWP / SolidWorks 2012 Tutorial with Video Instruction.


      My "Seat" is the most "basic" SW 2012, I don't have a subscription to the H.E.L.P. desk, so besides utilizing the provided tutorials on my downloaded product, I figured I would seek out as much extra info. as possible, and purchased the text books mentioned.


      The ONLY help I have, (that I'm aware of anyway) is being able to ask questions from the wonderful folk's on this forum, Thank God for that-! I also read and re-read paragraph after paragraph after sentence followed by yet still another re-reading of whatever is keeping me stuck wherever im stuck.


      My "Tools" consist of a 2011 Dell Inspiron 64 bit, (Windows Areo) and the following:


      Graphics card info:


      * - Chip Type: Intell HD graphics family.

      * - DAC Type: Internal

      * - Adapter string: Intel HD 3000

      * - Bios: Intel video bios

      * - T.A.G.M. - 1696mb

      * - Dedicated vid-memory: 64mb

      * - System Video Memory: 0 zero, zip, nada.....

      * - System shared memory: 1632mb


      I know that I need a workstation, portable would be best and they're only between $1,500.00 - $6000.00 for the ultimate build-it-yourself deal, so I ordered four, one for each bedroom.......ya right-! I'm working this issue but for now all I have is the laptop. A couple of tech's at MCAD have informed me about the Workstation(s) but also mentioned that I should be able to finish the tutorials with the Dell I have now.


      So here's the problem I'm having. (I apologize for all the afore mentioned I just wanted to bring anyone reading this up-to-speed with what / where I'm at sitting right here talking to anyone of you, hope I didn't bore or waste anyone's time).


      In BOTH the SolidWorks integral tutorials,you are required to "SAVE" and "SAVE-AS" numerous files and templates and I guessing at this point, a few other things I'm not yet realizing or aware of.


      In Mr. Paul Trans Textbook, he has devoted (2) chapters to Setting-up your PC to "enhance" or make it easer to follow along with the text-book. These are entitled: Setting the system parameters, / Chapter 1: The System Settings (I can scan this page and post as an attachment if requested) and Chapter 2: Document Templates.


      I went through each chapter judiciously and very carefully, and I believe I have done everything correctly as far as this is all concerned. I'm wondering if doing all this somehow confused or screwed-up my PC-???


      What's happening is I'm now stuck on the third stage of tutorial one, creating the drawing of the 1st part (the 1st two PARTS actually) the square shelled box with the short round tube sticking out from the center. It's joined to a 2nd similar shaped and shelled box in the 2nd phase of the tutorial, followed by the drawing phase.


      The REAL-DEAL NOW, I went to open the file of the completed assembly and NOTHING showed up-! Nothing came up inside the graphics field-!!! This is NOT the first time for this and a real COOL Individual from MCAD in Denver, Colorado tried to help me understand the difference between a template and/ or a regular folder (file or otherwise I guess) but I'm afraid I just didn't get it, because IF I had, I wouldn't be typing this 5000 word question.


      It looks to me like somehow I'm getting some of my non-related files from my desktop MIXED IN with the files I'm trying to SAVE from all my work completed on the SW graphics field.


      I'm going to go searching now for more (tutorials) on how to better understand how to save and save-as my work. I think that maybe I need some additional BASIC-TRAINING in PC's yet. I'm guessing there's something on my own PC under the HELP selection key or maybe @ Microsoft or somewhere out there in the vastness of the infamous Internet, maybe GCFlearnfree.org will have something. I'm going to take this path while waiting to see if anyone from this forum can suffer through my novel here and still want's to MAYBE help me, again, I apologize for the length of this message, in the future they won't need be as long.


      My final question / thought was this: Can I simply re-name these "files" and they might self-sort (Is this a form of "default" or what's meant by the term default, is it not)-? or am I being wish-full at best-? I'm guessing the reason I having the issues is these "files-parts-assemb.etc" are not showing up inside the G-field is they're not responding to their NAME(s) or whatever and they're hanging out somewhere nearby waiting for me to call them by their correct name(s) or whatever, I've got myself all confused now-!


      Thank You ALL for your time, any help would be greatly appreciated-!!!




      P.s. - Please let me know if anyone wants to see any of the table of contents pages from Paul Trans Text Book(s) to better understand and/ or visulize the settings info.


      P.p.s. - My personal email address: rcarmorer@gmail.com

        • Re: To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?
          Mark Kaiser

          You never really described a problem I can understand.  Are you trying to open a SW tutorial and SW can't find the part files it needs?  Have you modeled some SW parts and then created an SW assembly?  Do you not know where you have saved SW files on your laptop?  I think you need to back up to step one and let us know what you have accomplished first.  Keep it simple please.

            • Re: To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?
              Jonathan Bolz



              Again Thank You for at least trying to help me, I know the message is way too long, I simply wanted to include everything (info wise) all at once I guess, didn't work so well.


              I really appreciate everyone's trying to help me but following my 3rd attempt at figuring out what I have done wrong, I'm taking a trip to Denver and having a talk with some of their tech's.


              Then I'm going to figure out what I'm going to do to get my hands on the proper tool(s) i.e. (a portable workstation) so that I can finish this as I DO HAVE a serious interest in C.A.D. especially this 3-D stuff-!!!


              Thank You EVERYONE for your time and gracious attempt's at helping me with this but it's just to detailed to try and communicate it over this type of system, I need to be able to show someone who can sit down with me and look at everything I'm looking at/ talking about.


              I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time, I should have thought of this FIRST-!!! and never tried this method, just feeling a lot of pressure these days.


              Thanks again everyone anyway,



            • Re: To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?
              Alin Vargatu

              The answer to the question in the subject line is most likely yes. Save!


              Unfortunately, the long story in the body of your post was hard to comprehend for me.


              Follow Mark's advice and you will get help faster.

              • Re: To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?
                Peter De Vlieger

                I must admit that the verbosity you used doesn't help to make things clear.


                As far as I can gather, and guess, you probably are having issues in understanding how to use save, save-as, templates, and assigned paths in the system options-file locations.


                I can't see your laptop being good enough to have anything production wise being fully created, annotated and finalised in a drawing but for basic tutorials it should suffise.


                If you made a part, or numerous parts, at the moment that you save them you'll be able to select a place to safe them.

                Once you've saved them, e.g. : folder "learning" on the desktop. You should be able to make an assemble or a drawing from them.

                At the moment that you select open in either assemble or drawing mode you should automatically be put in the last used folder, as in "learning" located on the desktop, and be able to select the necessary part(s). If after all that, nothing shows up in the graphical view but it does in the feature manager (the list of stuff on the left) then most likely you'll have to update your grapics driver or simply need a machine with better graphics capability.


                Mind you, all this is conjecture and could be entirely wrong because of the difficulty to understand your problem.


                Best of luck.

                • Re: To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?
                  John Burrill

                  Jonathan, if you've saved a microsoft word document to a folder on your hard-drive, you know how to save in SolidWorks.  There are advanced file handling/referencing issues in SolidWorks but you're not going to have to deal with them on tutorial 1 of any book.  Basically, your book is telling you create some part files, create an assembly and insert those parts into it and create a drawing and insert the assembly into it.

                  I believe the reason you're struggling with what should be an elementary and intuitive concept is that your laptops integrated video can't draw more than one accelerated window at a time.  Based on the frustration you've expressed, it's likely your assembly contains the geometry you inserted into it and your video card just isn't showing it.  Lesson 1 about SolidWorks is take the hardware requirements seriously or you will punish yourself.  Your laptop with Windows Vista and 2Gb of Ram and motherboard graphics is insufficient and you're probably using most of your resources just bootting to your windows desktop and launching SolidWorks.  If you plan to use SolidWorks professionally, then you'll need a good, fast computer-even for your educational work.  You can easily get a desktop capable of running SolidWorks for a thousand dollars and a laptop with run you about 1600.00  If you dont' think you should have to spend that kind of money on a computer, then you're not really interested in CAD.  If you can't put out the money or borrow a more capable machine right now then for the short-short term, try disabling hardware OpenGL in SolidWorks using this procedure:

                  Launch SolidWorks but do not open a file.

                  In the SolidWorks application goto the Tools pulldown menu and select Options

                  In the Options dialog box, select the System Options tab.

                  in the list on the left side, select Performance to display the performance options panel

                  In the controls that show up on the right side of the dialog box, check the checkbox labelled, "Use Software OpegnGL" 

                  click OK to exit the Options dialog

                  That will bypass the motherboard video and run the graphics off of the CPU and RAM.  It's going to be slow and choppy working with a files containing more than a few features and you'll probably crash if you try to load an assembly of any complexity because you don't have enough Ram to go around, but you'll be able to get farther into your tutorials. 

                  The additional files you described are probably temporary files and might include autosaves and back-ups depening on how your system is configured and what folder you're working from.  Just leave them be until you've gone through some more training.  I assure you that your books will include lessons on file management.

                  You're right to join the SolidWorks discussion forums to extend your knowledge.  This is an excellent learning and support resource.  Just remember, it runs on good will, so seek out opportunities to help other people.

                  • Re: To "save or not to save",THAT is the/my question-! or rather what am I doing wrong?
                    Jerry Steiger



                    In addition to all of the good advice you have gotten from John and Peter, I would suggest that it is easiest to work with all of your SolidWorks parts, assemblies and drawings in a single folder. Eventually you may want to establish separate folders for different projects or for other reasons, but for right now, keep it simple. If, in fact, your files are scattered about on your machine, you can move them into a single folder. If you use SolidWorks Explorer, this should keep all of the links intact. If you use Windows Explorer, you may have to reestablish the broken links. It could be that you have already broken links from your assembly to the parts that should be in it by moving parts or assemblies in Windows Explorer.


                    Jerry S.