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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Christopher Hardy Sep 10, 2013 1:42 AM (in response to Christopher Hardy)-
Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Jared Conway Sep 10, 2013 11:20 AM (in response to Christopher Hardy)as a first crack at this, make it easy on yourself.
cut the model in a quarter, apply symmetry restraints on the cut faces and then apply your load. this artificially restrains your problem at the center point which will make it stable. then you can start removing symmetry restraints to learn what kind of restraints are needed to hold things in place.
regarding the tangent modulus error, it sounds like you have too many inputs for your material. either enter the E and Etan or the stress strain curve. not both. there are a bunch of articles on this in the solidworks KB and it is covered in the solidworks premium training. we also offer one-on-one training for this type of problem if you're interested.
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Christopher Hardy Sep 17, 2013 9:44 PM (in response to Jared Conway)Hi Jared,
Thanks for the help. Just wondering, what do you mean by the E and Etan ? I do not think I have come across that function.
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Jared Conway Sep 18, 2013 1:58 AM (in response to Christopher Hardy)Etan and e are part of the bilinear material model
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Christopher Hardy Sep 18, 2013 2:45 AM (in response to Jared Conway)The other thing I am worried and unsure about is the size of the load/displacement.
The step 1 error message states that it could either be:
- Lack of adequate restraint (using symmetry on cut faces)
- Material Properties not Defined (I believe this is defined, as i used for another analysis)
- Load Increment to large or to small (what is large and what is small?)
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Jared Conway Sep 18, 2013 3:32 AM (in response to Christopher Hardy)Might be worth posting your model at this point. Sounds like you're missing some steps on the setup.
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Christopher Hardy Sep 18, 2013 6:57 AM (in response to Jared Conway)Jared I will create a new discussion, Sorry i couldn't find a link to upload a new attachment
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Jared Conway Sep 18, 2013 11:31 AM (in response to Christopher Hardy)using the advanced editor in the top right you can post new models. just in case someone comes across this thread in the future, can you post a link in both threads pointing to the other
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Jerry Steiger Sep 10, 2013 11:23 PM (in response to Christopher Hardy)Christopher,
Rubber parts are usually quite hard to simulate accurately. Compression loads are particularly hard, as the results depend strongly on the friction coefficient between the faces of the part and the tester.
Rubber materials are strongly nonlinear in their response. Linear approximations only work for very small strains. You have to do a lot of testing to establish a good material model for each rubber material. There are laboratories that specialize in doing this type of testing.
Jerry S.
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Re: Modelling Compression of a rubber block
Paul Millhouse Jul 13, 2018 5:26 PM (in response to Jerry Steiger)Sorry to bring up an old post. Hey Jerry Steiger (and others), in your opinion, could this be more accurately modeled without the top and bottom plates? I have a similar problem where I simply need to simulate compression of a rubber part. I could fix the bottom surface and apply the compressive force on the top surface. That way there is no friction forces or other assembly components to deal with, just simple compression of the (rubber or similar) part. Would that help? Thanks
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