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Ordering of parts in Simulation

Question asked by Dario Da Silva on Apr 24, 2013
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Hello all

Bit of a stange question that's causing a lot of frustration

I need to export a surface mesh made up of separate layers to GeoStar (see attached picture) (NB: not just split lines because each layer needs to be assigned a different property)

I created a solid body, which I then split along an extruded surface to create layers within the solid. The face of this split solid is then offset to create a surface which enables shell meshing. This creates the required layers in surface form. However, when the Simulation workspace is running, the surfaces are not presented in the correct order. When exported to GeoStar, there is no consitency with the Solidworks model in terms of part ordering. Furthermore, if I place the parts into a folder to reorder them, the GeoStar export file still does not retain this same order.

Does anybody know why this occurs, or have any suggestions to remedy the problem?

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Dario

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Jared Conway Apr 24, 2013 11:32 AM

can you elaborate on what you mean by "not presented in the correct order"?

also what is your workflow?

and i'm curious, what type of analysis do you need geostar for?

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Dario Da Silva @ Jared Conway on Apr 24, 2013 12:05 PM

Should have probably included this image in the first place, see attachment.

Basically, when Solidworks recognises the surface as an entity within the analysis it denotes it as

"SurfaceBody ##"

However, when the part is created, it gets denoted as

"SurfaceCreation [##]"

These two numbers are not aligned, and it would be highly (highly) advantageous if they were.

I'm not too clued up on what a workflow is, apologies for my ignorance.

I'm using GeoStar for linear dynamic (modal time-history analyses) and thermal studies.

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Jared Conway @ Dario Da Silva on Apr 24, 2013 12:07 PM

your attachment didn't make it through unfortunately.

workflow is just the steps that you took to get to where you ended up.

what versions of solidworks/simulation are you using? Linear dynamic and thermal analysis are both included in SolidWorks Simulation at this point.

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Dario Da Silva @ Jared Conway on Apr 24, 2013 12:18 PM

Using 2009 versions which unfortunately don't have the capacity that we require.

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Dario Da Silva @ Jared Conway on May 17, 2013 6:58 AM

I think it my be an issue with Solidworks 2009 SP1.0, because all the inputs work it just doesn't work when running the model.

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Jared Conway @ Dario Da Silva on May 17, 2013 7:32 PM

hi dario, i can certainly check in the latest version of solidworks/geostar to see if it is any different or if there is something that can be done to mitigate the issue but the peice missing from your workflow is how you get the files out of solidworks and into geostar. and the setup to the simulation (but i think i have a copy of that somewhere)

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Dario Da Silva Apr 29, 2013 6:26 AM

Workflow:

Import of SpillwayProfile.DWG onto right plane (note slight exclusions in middle of dam body) to form sketch
1 m extrusion of sketch to create “Spillway Profile” solid
Import of CuttingProfile.DWG onto right plane to form sketch (cutting profile is created by rectangular array of the bottom pattern in AutoCAD)
The sketch is extruded to form the “Cutting Profile” surface
The “Split” function is then used to split the solid body into the component layers. The Trim tool is the “Cutting Profile” surface extrusion
“Surface Offset” function is used, selecting all the faces along the right plane of the solid, with an offset of 0 metres. This is named “Surface Creation”
The Cutting Profile Surface and the Spillway Profile Body are subsequently deleted.

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Jared Conway Apr 24, 2013 11:32 AM
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can you elaborate on what you mean by "not presented in the correct order"?

also what is your workflow?

and i'm curious, what type of analysis do you need geostar for?
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- Dario Da Silva @ Jared Conway on Apr 24, 2013 12:05 PM
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  Should have probably included this image in the first place, see attachment.
  
  Basically, when Solidworks recognises the surface as an entity within the analysis it denotes it as
  
  "SurfaceBody ##"
  
  However, when the part is created, it gets denoted as
  
  "SurfaceCreation [##]"
  
  These two numbers are not aligned, and it would be highly (highly) advantageous if they were.
  
  I'm not too clued up on what a workflow is, apologies for my ignorance.
  
  I'm using GeoStar for linear dynamic (modal time-history analyses) and thermal studies.
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  - Jared Conway @ Dario Da Silva on Apr 24, 2013 12:07 PM
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    your attachment didn't make it through unfortunately.
    
    workflow is just the steps that you took to get to where you ended up.
    
    what versions of solidworks/simulation are you using? Linear dynamic and thermal analysis are both included in SolidWorks Simulation at this point.
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    - Dario Da Silva @ Jared Conway on Apr 24, 2013 12:18 PM
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      Using 2009 versions which unfortunately don't have the capacity that we require.
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    - Dario Da Silva @ Jared Conway on May 17, 2013 6:58 AM
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      I think it my be an issue with Solidworks 2009 SP1.0, because all the inputs work it just doesn't work when running the model.
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      - Jared Conway @ Dario Da Silva on May 17, 2013 7:32 PM
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        hi dario, i can certainly check in the latest version of solidworks/geostar to see if it is any different or if there is something that can be done to mitigate the issue but the peice missing from your workflow is how you get the files out of solidworks and into geostar. and the setup to the simulation (but i think i have a copy of that somewhere)
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Dario Da Silva Apr 29, 2013 6:26 AM
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Workflow:
1. Import of SpillwayProfile.DWG onto right plane (note slight exclusions in middle of dam body) to form sketch
2. 1 m extrusion of sketch to create “Spillway Profile” solid
3. Import of CuttingProfile.DWG onto right plane to form sketch (cutting profile is created by rectangular array of the bottom pattern in AutoCAD)
4. The sketch is extruded to form the “Cutting Profile” surface
5. The “Split” function is then used to split the solid body into the component layers. The Trim tool is the “Cutting Profile” surface extrusion
6. “Surface Offset” function is used, selecting all the faces along the right plane of the solid, with an offset of 0 metres. This is named “Surface Creation”
7. The Cutting Profile Surface and the Spillway Profile Body are subsequently deleted.
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