I’m trying to create a block for use in drawings. The thing is, when I hit OK the text jumps up.
Before Make Block:
After Make Block:
OK so I go to edit it and get this...
What version are you running, because I seem to recall this being an issue back in 2009 and 2010.
What if you were to throw a dimension on it?
I have added dimensions to it with no luck.
I worked with my VAR for a while on this and had no luck. This, along with hundreds of other issues, is why I HATE producing drawings out of SW. Unfortunately, drawings are our deliverable. We’ve been listing our pet peeves on the other thread but we could have an entire thread on drawings. It would take 50 people for 2 years to work out the bugs/problems that I have with the drawings side of the program.
Nice to see this hasn't been addressed. Not!!!
I know how you feel about the drawing thing. While SW has gotten better, it still needs a lot of work when it comes to drawings.
You are right though, we could fill a pretty lengthy thread on just drawings.
I wiah I had more of an answer for you, but I think this is a bug that may or may not be fixed with the next SP.
Yea, I’m tending towards the “may not” camp (like most of our other peeves). It’s frustrating that you can model most anything and yet struggle to be able to show it. We are a consulting company so we have to adhere to our clients drafting standards, which make producing drawings (in SW) impractical. I usually make drawings that have all the views we need and then export them to AutoCAD so the CAD department can xref them in to produce the actual drawings.
What particular elements are you unable to produce in SolidWorks Drawings?
It would be difficult for me to list all my frustrations, but I could give you a sample. I understand that SolidWorks is primarily a mechanical engineering package but there are some of us out here that use it for structural and civil. Because of that, our drawing conventions are different and it would be nice to incorporate them into the functionality. For example, our section/detail markers are different so when I cut a section through a model I have to take several steps to hide the automatic one and insert my own (same with view and detail titles). It would be nice to be able to define a custom marker/target/label as a block in the Document Properties.
We don’t have the option to use architectural scales (i.e. 1/4”=1’-0”). Hatching is awkward at best and requires well too many mouse clicks. If you hatch a component, the hatch scale is assigned to child views regardless of view scale. You should be able to align a view in two directions at the same time. View labels should be able to snap to the middle (horz.) of the view. Aligning text to each other is not consistent and the relationship should remain. Selection filter should include text and hatch. Table formatting needs more functionality. Table cells that contain functions should have the ability to display units. When dragging items, Shift-drag should lock to vertical or horizontal like all other Windows applications. Dialog boxes should be re-sizable. You should be able to link text to dimensions. The grid moves?!? You cannot snap to the edge of the sheet…
The main reason I export to AutoCAD however is that we have a CAD department filled with people that only draw and do not design. To buy full versions of SolidWorks just to access the drawings functionality would be prohibitively expensive. I have been saying for years that you guys should offer a drawings only version (w/o bi-directional link) so that my CAD staff could take my design and produce the drawings and I could move onto the next design issue. Without that, I can become the bottleneck. Also, I’m too expensive to be producing drawings.
Dialog boxes should be re-sizable.
Which dialog boxes?
Shift-drag should lock to vertical or horizontal like all other Windows applications.
This is not as universally applicable is it may seem. Where would you like to see this employed?
You should be able to link text to dimensions.
This has been in SolidWorks for many years. Is there a specific case that isn't working?
Would it be possible for me to ask you to file individiual Enhancement Requests (or vote for existing ones) for the other items in yoru list?
When asking for "more functionality", please be specific as possible. For example, statements that sometimes are made by users like "Make table like Excel" doesn't really help because SolidWorks Tables already have more functionality that Excel in some areas, and Excel has a lot of functionality that wouldn't necessary be desirable within SolidWorks.
The layers dialog box is one I can think of offhand that cannot be resized.
As to the drag lock, I don’t think that it works for anything. I’d like it to work for as many things as possible; views, text, tables. It would be even better if you could Ctrl-Shift drag to copy something that would stay aligned to the original.
As to linking text to dimensions, I have found a way to do that in notes but the linked information takes the text formatting of the dimension and not of the note. Here’s an example of what happens when I try to put it in a table…
Matthew Lorono wrote: David, Dialog boxes should be re-sizable.Which dialog boxes?
Matthew Lorono wrote:
Not related to drawings, but both the Select a Configuration dialog (when dragging parts from Explorer into an assembly) and the Component Properties dialogs are not resizeable. When you have a configurable socket head cap screw model with 200+ configs and one dialog only displays 5.5 lines and the other displays 7 lines, it is a hassle to find the config you want.
I've been having this as well as a few other issues (most recently largely revolving around issues with Blocks in Drawings). I've been using Solidworks since 2000 and am currently using the lastest 2012. I'm frustrated that a issue like this has not been fixed.
More recently I've been having issues which have been compounded by the text jumping issue such as Inserting Blocks and the text displays a different color than the layer its supposed to be associated with (example 1) or I would make a change to a block and after exiting from editing the block it would revert back (example 2).
Example 1: I was making a titleblock block. The Lines were on one layer, the static text another and the text linked to properties on a third layer. The Text on the properties layer was blue so it would provide contrast on the screen for the editable fields. For some reason occationally when I would insert the block the text would come in Green (the same green used for my Dims Layer), the Block was on the None-Layer so that it should have used all the native colors.
Example 2: I had a block and I attempted to edit the block to change the font type or the text size of certain text in the block. It would change in the block, I would exit and the text would revert to displaying whatever it was before. Going back into to edit it and it would show the changes I had made. It would only display correctly while editing it. Could not even save the block out to an external file and make changes their. changes would not stick.
Both examples required I explode the blocks, make sure everything was correct and re-make the block (and also deal with the bug where text gets scattered when you exploded the block). The only thing I could do reliably while editing the block was to move the text around, usually having to nudge it up or down so that when I exited the block, it appeared where I ultimately wanted it, even if it was messed up while editing the block.
Have you contacted your VAR about these issues to have them possibly reported as bugs?
Have you reported this bug to your VAR? If not, please do so very soon.
Apparently, this was reported a long time ago. See SPR 395311. I don't know why, but it shows as being closed for inactivty. Really??? what more is needed to get this moving? Fix it already.
Definitely, this is another one to add to the "can't do in annotations..." discussion.
I've been having this problem for years, and I just experienced this again. Ugh!
My personal workaround has been to only use top justified text, as it seemed to be mainly a problem with ('y-axis') centred text; left-centre, middle-centre, right-centre. Possibly even to insert an empty line underneath with enter as well . Another helpful trick has been to insert a space either side of a properties link to ensure its justification works properly.
It was mainly noticeable when opening the same drawing in eDrawings viewer so I went back to my drawings and tested different configurations until I worked it out.
...I am mortified by the mass of workarounds required for most drawings...
Jeni (and all others),
I'm interested in this "mass of workarounds". I've create a new thread. I invite you to list the workarounds that you currently employ in drawings: https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/72540. This will help us tackle the workflow and other issues that you are currently experiencing.
(We've used ealier similar forum threads in the past few years to make fixes in SolidWorks, but I think a fresh thread might be helpful to let even more users participate and describe issues that remain in SW2013.)
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