->x ->? after sketch & number in the feature manager.
What do these mean...?
The sketch with the x is fully defined.
The sketch with the ? is not.
Thanks
Rich
->x ->? after sketch & number in the feature manager.
What do these mean...?
The sketch with the x is fully defined.
The sketch with the ? is not.
Thanks
Rich
Rich,
the -> means that the sketch has external reference (has constrains to another file)
? = Reference can't be found (usually you just need to open the reference file)
* = Reference is locked.
x = Reference is broken.
You have in-contexted references
The "?" means it its ot of contexted and cannot find what it was referenced to.
The "x" means you have broken referenece
The help will help to explain more about the in-contexted references.
Regards,
Scott
Here it is in the help file:
Regards,
Scott
Thank You All...!
Rich
Ok - what do you do if you have a ( x ) - broken reference & you can not find were it was referenced to....?
I have a ( Mess ) of customer supplyed - poorly modeled parts & I need to clean them up as best I can - before they do more damage. lol
Thanks Again
Rich
You can RMB the feature/sketch and select "List broken references" or if its a sketch you can edit the sketch and click on "Display Delete Relations" then on the Drop down select External references and it sould list the external references your sketch had previously.
Regards,
Scott
Customer supplied? Does this mean you do not need to modify them? Are you just interfacing with their components? One option may be to save their assembly as a part file. You can then use the part file for whatever you are doing. This will eliminate the hackery going on in the assembly and give you simply one file to deal with.
Thanks Scott,
Dustin,
My intent is not to modify any of them.
My concern is ( blue sketches everywhere )
So many un-defined sketch's & assemblies it is hard to believe - I just want to clean them up before I reference them in my new tooling.
Rich
Rich,
I looked at your profile after posting the previous message. I didn't consider that you were a fabricator. In my mind, if you are making changes to the customer's models, you are opening yourself up to some risk. What is the driving document that the customer provided? Is it the model, the drawing, a pdf of the drawing? If they provided you with pdfs that were the "official" document... and models as reference, then you have the complete flexibility to use the models at your discretion. If they provided you with dirty models and said "make this"... and you made any modification to those files... and stuff doesn't fit, then you may have blame game problems. IMHO the customer should have provided IGES files. That way you have solid geometry that isn't going to fall apart on you.
Rich,
I would break any remaining external references and just dimension
them to what makes sense to get them contrained.
I am assuming you do not have to return these files back to the customer,
but rather they are for your useage to make the parts?
Thanks Dustin - I see your points - Fabricator is just one of my hats. lol
I am using the customer models as reference for building tools & holding fixtures - I recorded mass & CG points just to make sure None of there geometry was changed.
I am doing pretty much what Scott said - adding the missing dimensions till were FD.
It really blows my mind when I see so much geometry that is not fully constrained - what it took to make the models solid was not to bad - just a bit more work - Makes me wonder why they did not do it the correct way - it just seems sloppy.
Rich,
Glad to hear it is working out. Yeah... it is amazing how sloppy something can be and the end result is still a "pretty picture." Just a sign of improper training and/or lack of pride in one's work.
2 More quick questions if you guy's don't mind.
#1 Dustin - why do you prefer an IGES file over all others...?
#2 In a sheet metal part - the last feature I see in ( un fold ) this has a sketch that is under defined, but It appears I can not edit it. Any Idea why....???
Thanks Again for you opinions & Help
Rich
#1 IGES files are 90% of the time junk, get a STEP or better yet a Parasolid... those are the only 2 I request... only after the customer can't provide 1 of those I ask for an IGES with a sad voice.
#2 - Try deleting it and see what happens... sounds like something is wrong with a SM feature above it.
Regards,
Scott
Rich,
I would break any remaining external references and just dimension
them to what makes sense to get them contrained.
I am assuming you do not have to return these files back to the customer,
but rather they are for your useage to make the parts?