We are currently using the ATI FireGL V7200 128mb cards, But are looking to upgrade to the The ATI FirePro V5800 1GB cards. Will we notice a boost in performance using SWX?
Any advice MUCHLY appreciated
What version of Solidworks are you on? What are the rest of your system specs?
Currently on 2010 sp4 but will install 2011 once we get the cards.
We also have the option to buy the Nvidia Quadro 2000
What type of modeling do you do? Small parts/Complex Parts/Large Assemblies?
Small parts / complex assemblies, decals and rendering.
Are you experiencing any display issues with your current cards? We had nVidia FX1400's (also 128 mb) for a while experienced major display/refresh issues. Now we use nVidia FX3800's (1 GB) and have seen a huge performance increase (especially when working with large assembly drawings (10,000+ parts). So, to answer your question, YES, you should notice a performance increase.
We notice issues more on one pc than the other.
We don't go anywhere near 10,000 parts. But do go to about 600 parts. The speed of SWX decreases rapidly the more parts we use.
Is it worth upgrading any other parts of our system too?
And thanks for your help Russ
How old are your systems?
Between 4 - 5 years. Budget is fairly limited to complete new systems is out of the question
Upgrading the CPU (or, if possible, overclocking the current one) will give the most benefit.
Then about the only other thing you can do is morer RAM (6GB maybe). This will require a 64-bit OS though (Win7 x64).
How many users do you have? I went through the battle to get new workstations a year ago with management. We ended up buying a test machine and I ran tests to judge the potential performance increase. We saw a huge performance increase on the test machine (simulations went from 1+ hr to less than 5 minutes in one test)
If you can show how much time you can save by getting new workstations you may be able to convince management to shell out the cash. I used the attached spreadsheet to calculate the cost of not buying new computers. Good luck!
Add RAM to the upgrade if you can aslo swing the X64 OS. RAM is cheap and put as much as can in your box. The video card and RAM will be two major noticeable upgrades.
Thanks alot guys. Much to think about here. We discuss with our IT and let you know the outcome.
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Sorry answered below.. but as athought what is a good test to run to compare machine running speed?
Waaaait a second.
Are you still running XP 32 bit?
Then you should not upgrade to a 1GB video card. 32 bit Windows can access 4 GB of data. 4GB - 1 GB video card leaves only 3 GB left for other things.
Thus, upgrading your video card with simultaneously downgrade your system's available RAM. I know, because I just did it a month ago.
Run the Benchmarks at Anna Woods site http://www.solidmuse.com/
Results can be compared via the spreadsheets available at the same location.
...No matter how much I post my results to Anna's site she will not ever publish my results and I'm not sure why...
That being said, the "benchmark" from Anna's site does very little as a video card benchmark.
I agree. I haven't found any good benchmarks for VC's. They best I found was to actually try it for your self. Invest the money in 1 card, install it and give a try before buying more.
Good point Charles. If you upgarde the VC, you will also need more RAM.
I'm lost...... (Yes translates to a little but thickk.... )
I thought that having 1GB RAM on the VC means that it helps the cpu out? So you get 1GB extra, not less?
Or is it that a 32bit system can run only 4GB max, regardless. So because its now running the VC it can only access 3GB of Ram leaving me with a wasted GB??
But if we upgrade to 64bit, we can use all available RAM?
Also... whats teh difference between runnin SWX 32bit and 64 bit?
Sorry for not understanding this...
we only have 2 users here though.
Thank you for the spreadsheet. I am going through the same thing, trying to justify 10 new computers with 1 GB to 2 GB cards. I keep telling them I am waiting 40 percent of the time on the computer when I work on my main assemblies.
The amount of RAM of the VC helps the video card GPU out in most cases, unless you're dealing with shared RAM onboard VC's. So, its important to also look at what type of chip the GPU is, just like when spec'ing a CPU.
With X64 the only real cap would be mobo and CPU memory limitations.
x86 windows systems can only access 4GB of RAM. Some of that is reserved and that leaves just over 3GB. Windows reserves 2GB for the system without a 3GB switch enabled.
There is very little noticeable difference running SW X86 or X64, and won't until Windows X64 is comlpletely 64 bit in all of its operations.
I just built 6 of these machines.
The solidstate drives are running on SATAIII (6.0GB/s) and on a RAID0. Its fast. Boots to windows in seconds, and SolidWorks opens almost instantly...
Runs 13's on the scooby benchmark, and with the proper VC card settings runs any big assembly we have here that I can toss at it even using realview with no tearing or studdering. Run's 10's OC'd to >4Ghz on the scooby benchmark.
So there's no point in us adding RAM aswell as the VC card as the CPU just wont use it.
So after getting a VC card, I need to look into a new CPU and RAM.
How much of the system do I need to change to run a 64bit OS?
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