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taking an existing toolbox folder from solidworks pro and adding it to solidworks standard

Question asked by 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010
Latest reply on Jun 9, 2010 by David Oustifine

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Hi guys,

Ive been looking all over for this and cant seem to find an answer. I know solidworks made smart fasteners available in the standard version how can i then take an original solidworks toolbox from Professional and copy it over to (were)? and somehow (connect) it to solidworks standard so it would be recognized and be able to be used?

Any help would be appreciated, we all know this is somehow possible since the buttons do exist in the standard for opening smart fasteners, or the toolbox itself.

Thanks!

Lenny Bucholz Jun 9, 2010 11:56 AM

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the reason is if you have a network install of SW you can have SW on as many computer as you want, you may have 3 seats of SW, 2 standard and one pro, so everything is installed on every computer so if you jump toa ny of the computers there may only be the standard left and toolbox wont be avalable.

and if you get everything setup in toolbox, in the standard version, if you buy the upgrade to office pro you are ready to run.

again you can complain all you want, bitch and moan, you don't have access to toolbox. you have to buy office pro or prem, sorry thats how it is.

smart fasteners will fill the holes with the correct bolt with the fastener you called out with hole wiz and if you didn't pick a fastener it will use the default fastener that you can pick or the standard is socket head bolts and put the in the size it thinks should fit the holes in your part. all the setup you do in standard so if you send the file to some on that has pro or prem they can add the fasteners with smart mates or drag and drop from toolbox, then they can resave with the option to have all the bolts or anything from toolbox saved as outside part files so if someone is on standard they can see and use all the items from toolbox.

shit back in the day before SW bought toolbox it cost $2k buy its self and you had to pay a yearly maintenace on that. now you get all the office products for $1500, over $4k+maint for 5 or 6 add-ins including edrawings pro, today.

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1-OIT9X8 Jun 7, 2010 11:50 AM
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why would they make it possible in standard if you can't use it?
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- Deepak Gupta @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010 11:56 AM
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  Can be possible if you have both version as floating license.
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  - 1-OIT9X8 @ Deepak Gupta on Jun 7, 2010 1:08 PM
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    well i have solidworks standard installed on one machine only. My question was if i go to my friend who has solidworks pro just get the toolbox from that program and copy it over to the standard, it technically should work> right? everything is there, no need for licensing. how would i connect the toolbox so it would work with standard.
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    - Deepak Gupta @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010 1:37 PM
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      Not it will not work. Though you can convert the toolbox parts into normal parts and use them but you can't get them work by simply copying the toolbox as you need to have toolbox checked under Tools > Add Ins to get it working.
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      - 1-OIT9X8 @ Deepak Gupta on Jun 7, 2010 1:44 PM
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        and theres no way of getting around that? Usually an installation of an file is just a placing of or copying of a file from one place to the other. So i'm just trying theoretically to just manually placing the files inside.thats all. is there like a block against this in the standard version? i mean its all there, just that smart fasteners cant find the toolbox so cant we just point it to the right direction, dunno maybe edit some file change a path name. so smart fasteners can see that the toolbox is there and use it?
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        1-OIT9X8 @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010 1:57 PM
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        guys everybody lets get our heads together and think of something, maybe its just as simple as changing a file path. thats all
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        Deepak Gupta @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010 3:06 PM
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        It is not as easy as changing a file path or pointing to the file location. The program has to be installed so that it can link (write in the registry) to work properly.
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        Anna Wood @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010 3:35 PM
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        Mark,
        
        I am going to get right to the point here pretty bluntly.....
        
        You are asking us to tell you how to circumvent the SolidWorks security so you can run the higher priced Toolbox that you did not purchase for your SolidWorks install.
        
        This is not possible because SolidWorks has made it that way. That is why you need to pay the money to buy a higher version of SolidWorks.
        
        You are asking this question on SolidWorks own forums on how to bootleg a portion of the software you have not purchased.
        
        Do you think this may be a bit unethical and we all may have a problem with that?
        
        Regards,
        
        Anna
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        Lenny Bucholz @ Anna Wood on Jun 7, 2010 3:33 PM
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        Dito to what ANNA has said!
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        David Oustifine @ Anna Wood on Jun 9, 2010 12:30 PM
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        Not to mention very illegal...
        
        As a work around try downloading the fasteners from www.fastenal.com and using a component pattern in your assembly. Otherwise just suck it up and pony up the extra cash for the upgrade.
        
        Regards,
        David O.
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        Deepak Gupta @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 7, 2010 3:42 PM
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        I'm sure you must have got the answer now!!
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Lenny Bucholz Jun 7, 2010 3:32 PM
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Sorry but toolbox is not part of standard. no matter how much you want it to be you are SOL!!! as others have said you can have toolbox from SW office prem or pro save the toolbox parts to a file that is outside of TB. This is the only way. upgrade to Ofiice prem I beleave its about $1500.00 or have your friend save them out.

another way is to go to McMaster Carr and download the fasteners you need and they are free. one thing with toolbox you would have to open and save every item to get it.
Toolbox have somewhere aroung 660,000 options of fasteners, grears, bearing, unistrut.........NOT A SIMPLE TASK.
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- 1-OIT9X8 @ Lenny Bucholz on Jun 8, 2010 1:31 PM
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  Okay, sorry guys but thats not what i meant about curcimventing the security for solidworks, more about trying to save. Anyway if proffesional all there is to it that blows. but then why torture you with the smart fasteners icon right there in the menu when there is no way of using it? apparently there must be a way of using everything installed right>? i opened up the toolbox everything is there. all the bolts what not, but for some reason just not recognized by solidworks. holeWizrd/toolbox i can configure it, but not use it? That Doesnt make any sense to me....probably some workaround needed thats all.
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  - Lenny Bucholz @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 8, 2010 1:44 PM
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    the hole wizard is avalable to you in standard!!!!
    
    toolbox isn't, they are tied together, but in standard they block toolbox. thats why standard is 4k and office pro is 5.5k and prem is 8k ish.
    
    smart fastener still won't work if you get any of the part files from your friend that has toolbox because toolbox, smart fastener and hole wiz all work together.
    
    not you can use everything, your serial number is what allows you to use this and not that, all software companies install the whole program and the codes or serial numbers is what gives you access to the options you pay for. like it or not, thats the way it is.
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    - 1-OIT9X8 @ Lenny Bucholz on Jun 9, 2010 9:42 AM
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      Okay wait a minute, how many of you people think that the toolbox is important? here is my company webpage www.intertranusa.com check out the products we design. Can you please tell me if it is worth it, to spend the extra dollars to buy The toolbox addin? I'm working on a bearing design currently and having smart fasteners i think it would be a good idea.....though i didn't use it much.....dunno.
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      - 1-OIT9X8 @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 9, 2010 10:08 AM
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        http://i48.tinypic.com/m9lpg0.jpg
        
        okay i have the holes there, Will smart fasteners determine the bolt sizes, so i can attach the bearing to the bottom plate?
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        1-OIT9X8 @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 9, 2010 10:22 AM
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        okay and how is this possible me being able to see this menu but not even able to use any of it? can't even open one bolt?
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        Lenny Bucholz @ 1-OIT9X8 on Jun 9, 2010 11:56 AM
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        the reason is if you have a network install of SW you can have SW on as many computer as you want, you may have 3 seats of SW, 2 standard and one pro, so everything is installed on every computer so if you jump toa ny of the computers there may only be the standard left and toolbox wont be avalable.
        
        and if you get everything setup in toolbox, in the standard version, if you buy the upgrade to office pro you are ready to run.
        
        again you can complain all you want, bitch and moan, you don't have access to toolbox. you have to buy office pro or prem, sorry thats how it is.
        
        smart fasteners will fill the holes with the correct bolt with the fastener you called out with hole wiz and if you didn't pick a fastener it will use the default fastener that you can pick or the standard is socket head bolts and put the in the size it thinks should fit the holes in your part. all the setup you do in standard so if you send the file to some on that has pro or prem they can add the fasteners with smart mates or drag and drop from toolbox, then they can resave with the option to have all the bolts or anything from toolbox saved as outside part files so if someone is on standard they can see and use all the items from toolbox.
        
        shit back in the day before SW bought toolbox it cost $2k buy its self and you had to pay a yearly maintenace on that. now you get all the office products for $1500, over $4k+maint for 5 or 6 add-ins including edrawings pro, today.
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