I am new to motion studies, and i was wonder if it is possible to move a box around on oval conveyor, and then make that box leave the oval conveyor to travel a different different conveyor based on certain conditions. If anyone has ideas or example i would appreciate it.
Thanks
Kyle
You can use Event-based motion to trigger different things in motion (supress, unsupress, motors moving, etc).
You could set up a path mate to mate the box to the oval path, and also a path mate to mate the same box to the other path. Use Event-based motion to supress one mate and unsupress the other. You may need to do something similar with motors.
I am not sure how to use a linear motor to drive a box around and oval. When the box gets half way around the oval it stops.
Hi Kyle, i've the same problem: i want to move a box/plate on a conveyor with circolar path (3 meter+180°+ 3 meter+180°).
I'm able to move the plate/box manually but I can't able to do this with motors...
I try to ask on web how to do that, but i find only this sample:
http://www.mikejwilson.com/solidworks/solidworks_files-02.htm Curve Driven Animation
http://www.mikejwilson.com/solidworks/solidworks_files-06.htm Slot Cars
... unfortunatly i'm not able to run correctly this sample
... then i write to Mike asking for help but till now i dont recive no one reply
Have you find some solutions?
Would you want to exchange ideas, opinions and solutions found?
P.S. This one run only in simulation mode (not in base moviment mode), now i try to understand how it work
http://www.mikejwilson.com/solidworks/solidworks_files-04.htm Escher's Mobius Strip II
Let me know about your progress.
Luca have you tried using distance/angle mates for the animation?
Hi Deepak, tnx for your reply,
of course you dont know about me that:
I'm not really expert in motion
I have the Italian version 2010 Professional (i dont understand what's "mate" is it in Italian version and where it is)
I thought that this job was very easy: just apply a motor to move around... now I see that it is not easy, and solidwx tutorial does not help me ...
So, now, may I ask you to explain to me what the 'distance / angle mates for the animation with a small example? It will be very very very welcome
PS:Do you know where I can find tutorials (preferably with sample files) simple and easy to try to understand the basics of motion?
Tnx again,
Luca
PS2: I'm sorry for my bed English
Hi Mattias, tnx very much for your tutorial/movie !!!!
I try to copy it and run it but maybe i wrong something (as i write i'm really not a good solidworker... but i wanto to learn)
Could you attach here your files in order to understand what's i wrong?
BUT before all, could you look at my attach and learn to me if and how to move the car following the path? ... I'm try to run this my example but i'm fail, then i've ask to my VAR but also their tell me that it isnt possible... I really really really hope you can help me.
Thank you very much if you can help me, thank you very much if you can't .
PS: I have the Italian version 2010 Professional
Sorry Luca, I completely missed it off . You can look at these post of animations where I have used some kinds of distance /angle mates. If you need in more details, I'll try to create something that is helpful.
Hi,
It is possible because I have done it before.
Similar approach, just using 2 coincident mates on a spline curve and a Linear Motor.
However, I cannot get that example to work as I like. I will look into that.
Hi Matias, i try and try with 2 coincident mates on a spline curve or curvilinear path and a Linear Motor, but every time my car go ahead and dotn follow the curve ...
I see your sample, i read and try your detail, i want to learn... but i need for a little example with PART and assembly in order to study it to use, and to modify and (i hope) to understand "the secret" ;-)
Could you help me?
Tnx
Hi Gupta and tnk u very much for you reply and sample's,
I look and try to understand yours and Matias sample's...
If i dont misunderstand, your way is like a "stop motion": i must place the car on the first point and i put the first key, then move
by hand the car on the second point and put the second key.... ?
...BUT I can't able to reproduce your sample ...
so i'm very very glad if you can post a little sample WITH swx files.
Tnx's for your patience ;-)
...ok ok ok ok ok
MAYBE something becoming to be right...
here my first video with "hand stop motion" system: look and look and look at your suggested video http://www.solidworker.com/222/animation-information/
was very helpfull.
This is my video: http://it.tinypic.com/r/5cd62x/6
But now I have already a lot of problems:
1) I want to apply a linear motor in order to delete mates, cause my real path have many curves and i dont want to calcolate every "step-time" but i love to just on or off the motor to have a simulation with the same speed.
2) I want to add many plates and link that now i cant able to do cause swx give me errors...
3) I want to to create a "train" with many plates and links but every time i add a mate all crash : http://www.4shared.com/file/aBY5cu87/M1KE_Big.html
Seems to be some issue with this right now. Reported it the support.
Hi Mattias....
We need more and more tips trick like this.
Usually when people ask about making conveyor animation, they just said its hard
I hope you ( your team ) can share tips & trick here....
Another question is, how to make animation like this video : http://www.think3.com/en/products/engineering
Play the second video....
Thanks
Hi Matias, I'm sorry but i dont understand exactly your answer... (cause my bad English and bad Google translation).
If you suggest me to report and ask about "how to do" this "exercise" to my VAR/Support/assistence, I become blocked: in fact they say that this thing can not be done in SolidWorks ... : ( (but i see you and Gupta have show me something of similar).
If you tell me that now you have no time to thinking about this and do a little example with 2 coincident mates on a spline curve and a linear motor, i can wait (cause i love to learn how to do this...)
In any case I thank you for your patience, I await your a valuable suggestion.
Ahmad, using combination of in-context approach, limits, distance and angle mates you can achieve what is shown in video 2.
I have reported the problem with the linear motor. You dont need to do anything.
regards
// Mattias
"I have reported the problem with the linear motor" ...
...the only time I reported a problem to SolidWorks was in July 2009 (SPR 516396), Solidworks until last month, has never been find any solution, and today I see that there is not even the alert (I just asked for a clarification to my dealer / service) (have you more tools to understand what's append to my SPR?)
So if I must wait for a response from SolidWorks, I think we have to wait too long ... (..but you're SWX employee and maybe i can hope for a quick response)
Anyway, can you let me know from where come's the video you showed me and how you have done them?
Maybe you've found them on the internet and you do not know if they are performed with the "engine method" or with the "stop-motion Gupta method" (stop-motion method mean, moving by hand step by step and making many key)
Hi,
Reseller should give more information about your SPR status from the SW support and provide a workaround if possible.
Sometimes a SPR could actually be an enhancement request since some functionality is specified to work in a certain way, but does not cover all aspects.
regards
// Mattias
Have you tried using motion analysis....3dcontact(friction)....gravity....and force to do this animation?....I have been fooling around with motion for sometime and found that those worked better for me than trying to use "animation" or "basic motion"...in order for you to get this option in your motion study you must enable the addin "Solidworks Motion"....I am using the Student Edition of 2009....which I do believe is the premium version.
All are very easy to use. I had issues using motors (mostly linear) and this made things soooo much easier for me.
Also there is Solidworks Simulation....which I haven't messed with yet...but even better from what I have read...When done right it is amazing what this software can do!!
Hi Mattias, i try more and more your last link, but i'm fails ....
the ball don't follow the box and the box follow the path but box rotate around path ....
I think may cause i have only the Italian 2010 Professional version
...
OOOOKAYYY Gupta ! ! ! ah ah ah ah ah
your post help me very very much, the trick was to use the "selection manager" command in "path mate" ! ! !
Very very good thank tou very much
... but ...
..but look at my goal, there is something wrong, the box does not always follow the path, but sometimes jumps out of guide ...
if you want to look it, this is my video link
...I would also have more questions ...
I can still ask?
1) How i can decide where the box start to move? .. I mean, when I use "Path Constraint" and i select "Distance along Path" and set the value to 0 how to decide who is the zero point?
2) I want to add 5 vangon, linked to the box and spaced 1000mm apart: how can i do this?
3) It's possible that the misure of 1000mm space work correctly also in the curve, I mean, if the circumference is 4000mm and 90° is 1000mm, i want to see the first vagon will be at the beginning of the curve and the next vagon will be at the end of the curve... uhmm i do not know if I explained clearly...
4) ... ok stop now . ...
^__^ tnx
Sort of a possible thing but will require some kind of experiment.
Two ways I can think of right now: