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Discussion created by Duane Roberts on Feb 3, 2010
Latest reply on Feb 3, 2010 by Harold Brunt

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Maybe its not solidworks that is fouling up, maybe its me. Ive used this sofware since 2006 where i had taken a small community college class on how to start. since then i barely recieved a raise from a company i have been working for since then, and yet i still dont make 30,000 a year. this leads me to believe i have much needed learning and that i should go back to something that i am more familiar with art, music, construction. i thought i did pretty good at keeping up with these peoples insanities, but i really would like to think about buying a home one day and having be able to support a family that would be nice. and i just dont see how thats going to happen. i do believe i am really good at the drawing and assemblies maybe not the fastest, but my review says i excel in my work maybe the company dosent have the money, i am the only drafter here for a company who creates scales. whats the feed back i can get on this i wonder? i love building houses and demolition lol i miss it. yeah i know this is irreleavant but if i do this is my good bye to the solidworks world more than likely

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Josh Brady Feb 3, 2010 9:18 AM
Are you looking for career advice? Forget art and music. Unless you are really, really good, you won't top $30k at either of those. Not a great time for construction either. With the current economy there's not a whole lot of that work to go around. If you want career work and career pay, you need career education. That usually means a 4 year degree. Preferably in something useful, not art history. Also, based on your current post you need to improve your written communication skills - typing, spelling, grammar, punctuation. These days it is hard to find a job that doesn't require good written and verbal communication skills.

Free advice, worth the price.
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- Greg Hynd @ Josh Brady on Feb 3, 2010 9:39 AM
  have you asked for a pay rise?
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Anton Miller Feb 3, 2010 9:50 AM
so since 2006 you havent recieved any raise at all? not even living expenses raise?
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- Duane Roberts @ Anton Miller on Feb 3, 2010 3:50 PM
  Yeah I get 1400 less a year than 30000 thousand. I worked in construction so that’s my main objective, I know to read blue prints and pretty much anything that has to do with remodeling or ground up or commercial or residential, may go to one of those community college for construction manager. This is only a forum as long as I get my point across not to much worried about punctuation. Alternatively, grammar I see far worse on here and no one bust on those people but I guess I should take Beethoven off and replace it with homer. Education is a good thing, I just not a sit there and listen to you preach to someone who works better hands on. oh not to mention I have done plumbing for 3 yrs and cabinetry were I did both drafting installing and building of custom cabinets I see work all around me here in Texas, people are building crap left and right you telling me it would be hard to find a job doing so, hmm. Well sounds like im screwed in this dead end thing until we change president’s ha-ha inside joke for those who laugh with me and not at me. Oh, my f7 keys not working so no grammar and spelling check on this rant hehehe. I cant be to stupid to not find a job and im willing to go back to digging ditches to work my way up to supervisor or foreman as I had done before just thought this was were I wanted to be... besides what I do now is drafting for a firm who creates scales for airplanes and trucks. just seems we are either not doing to good or hmmmm who knows I know there is a lot of problems and im just tired. I want to give up but pride keeps kicking me in my @22 telling me to keep going, any body have some valium to dish out to make it another day so anyone else out there feel the way I do. In addition, no I did not check my spelling. Kick me off moderator. ok i did a spell check for you not the greatest but i did 1
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  - Josh Brady @ Duane Roberts on Feb 3, 2010 5:22 PM
    Nobody is going to kick you off for bad spelling or grammar. However, since the way you write is the only thing we have by which to get an impression of you, if you don't want to come across as lazy and uneducated you will have to write accordingly. Poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc. are the written equivalent of a stained T-shirt and cutoffs. This forum is made up (for the most part) of professionals in the area of CAD, engineering, and industrial design. Sure, you may have seen worse on here. However, this is an international forum. Many people posting have English as a second, third, or even fourth language. I would likely have ignored your poor communication skills if you had asked a SolidWorks related question. Instead, you simply complained about not being paid well. I simply pointed out one possible reason for that based on the evidence you provided in your post.
    
    If you are simply complaining about your sorry lot in life and wanting to vent, then I apologize for wasting my time with some advice. If you are skilled enough to make big money doing plumbing, cabinetry, or construction then by all means do so. CAD and design work is the realm of professionals. If you are unwilling or unable to obtain a professional education and comport yourself as a professional, you are unlikely to advance very far in that type of career.
    
    Best of luck!
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  - Harold Brunt @ Duane Roberts on Feb 3, 2010 5:22 PM
    Everyone has a bad day / week / month / year / whatever now and then Duane and I would think that if someone has been around a while they would have some empathy. Lousy companies are everywhere. I have a couple of suggestions for you though. Don't take anyone's advice too literally (especially mine) since it is all based on opinion. Sarcasm and spite are hard to tell apart on the web so if somebody takes a jab at you it is most likely a cheap shot anyway. Next would be to leave dollars and politics out of it. There are bound to be some who make less and are happy to be getting it and some who make more and hate their jobs more than you do (you just never know). Agree or disagree with the current admin, even a misunderstood joke can make a person who might be willing to offer some help change their mind.
    So then, my preaching aside what is it you want advice on? Going back to school? How to approach your boss? What the job market is like other places in the country? Ask for what you would like to know specifically and someone will step up. I like the Beethoven by the way....
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