Weldment Cut List automatically populates all items, incl. hidden items!!

Discussion created by Anis Khan on Jul 17, 2008
Latest reply on Jul 17, 2008 by 1-6TXHTM

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Hi, I am new with SW, and this is driving me crazy.

I created a part with Weldments. It has many different profiles (tubes, c squares, etc.). I then divided the structure into sub-parts into their own Cut-Lists (in manual mode.) I have to send the drawings to the machine shop by sub-parts.

So I created a new drawing, and added a Relative View of one sub-part of the structure. Then I added a Weldment Cut List, and it shows every single item in the structure, not just the ones in the created Relative View of the sub-part... So I selected the rows that I don't need, and did a Hide/Show to remove them.

I repeated these steps for every sub-part, for a total of 5 sheets in the drawing, all with their own Weldment Cut Lists with certain rows hidden.

The big problem is that if I update the part and return to the drawing, it updates the Weldment Cut Lists AND it populates all the tables again. Meaning that ALL the rows that I deleted in all of the sheets come back, and I have to delete them manually again....

Is there any way to force Solidworks to keep the rows hidden no matter what? I can't imagine the nightmare if I have more sheets...

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1-6TXHTM Jul 15, 2008 8:48 PM

Relative views are not the right way to do this. If you make a cutlist of a part it will show all of the multibodies within that part. The way I view a cutlist is that it is so a guy can take the list and go to the saw to cut all the raw lengths that go into the complete weldment. The cutlist is attached to the complete weldment model and not the drawing so when you you detail a view of that weldment the cutlist that will show up will be for the complete weldment.
If you want to have each piece as it's own part with it's own cutlist then you will have to save the bodies out to a new part and then create the drawings from that new part.
The way I do it is to keep the weldment as a whole, detail the weldment and insert the master cutlist on the front page and then create details of the individual members on other sheets by using relative views. This way a guy can take the cutlist on the first sheet, cut the raw material and label it with the item number. Then if machining needs to be done they can go to the sheet showing the detail for that item (referenced from the master cutlist). This seems to be a lot more associative rather than saving out the bodies and manually doing cutlist info.

Lorne

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Anis Khan Jul 16, 2008 2:19 AM

Hi Lorne, thanks for your reply and suggestions. Your explanation makes sense and the way you describe is probably the way cut-lists are suppose to be used.

At this point I am too deep into the process to redo the parts separately, so I am going to use your method. Maybe for the next system I'll create each sub-part as separate weldments and then assemble it all together.

Thanks again,
Anís

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1-6TXHTM Jul 17, 2008 3:28 PM

Anis

I was thinking about this and I ame up with a workaround.

1. Create the weldment as a whole and create your cutlist
2. Make your drawing of the weldment
3. Insert the cutlist (for the entire weldment)
4. Make your relative views of the individual pieces on new sheets (still all in one drawing).
5. Split the cutlist multiple times to get multiple cutlists.
6. Cut and paste these partial cutlists onto their respective sheets.

This will put the info for the detailed item on the same sheet as the relative view. The only thing is that the item numbers will still be incremented. I would make sure to balloon everything (even if it is the only thing on the sheet) to make sure the cutlist on that sheet is actually for that relative view.

Not sure if this will accomplish what you want, but thought I would throw it out there.

I hope this was clear, if not I can attach an example.

Lorne

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Anis Khan Jul 17, 2008 7:42 PM

Lorne, how do you "split the cutlist multiple time" ?

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1-6TXHTM Jul 17, 2008 7:50 PM

RMB on the row where you want the split, then select split on the menu and choose either above or below.

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Anis Khan Nov 19, 2009 9:40 PM

I just realized that this happens also when I simply close and re-open the drawing... There has to be a way to stop Solidworks from re-inserting all of the rows in the Weldment Cut List.

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1-6TXHTM Jul 15, 2008 8:48 PM
Relative views are not the right way to do this. If you make a cutlist of a part it will show all of the multibodies within that part. The way I view a cutlist is that it is so a guy can take the list and go to the saw to cut all the raw lengths that go into the complete weldment. The cutlist is attached to the complete weldment model and not the drawing so when you you detail a view of that weldment the cutlist that will show up will be for the complete weldment.
If you want to have each piece as it's own part with it's own cutlist then you will have to save the bodies out to a new part and then create the drawings from that new part.
The way I do it is to keep the weldment as a whole, detail the weldment and insert the master cutlist on the front page and then create details of the individual members on other sheets by using relative views. This way a guy can take the cutlist on the first sheet, cut the raw material and label it with the item number. Then if machining needs to be done they can go to the sheet showing the detail for that item (referenced from the master cutlist). This seems to be a lot more associative rather than saving out the bodies and manually doing cutlist info.

Lorne
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Anis Khan Jul 16, 2008 2:19 AM
Hi Lorne, thanks for your reply and suggestions. Your explanation makes sense and the way you describe is probably the way cut-lists are suppose to be used.

At this point I am too deep into the process to redo the parts separately, so I am going to use your method. Maybe for the next system I'll create each sub-part as separate weldments and then assemble it all together.

Thanks again,
Anís
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1-6TXHTM Jul 17, 2008 3:28 PM
Anis

I was thinking about this and I ame up with a workaround.

1. Create the weldment as a whole and create your cutlist
2. Make your drawing of the weldment
3. Insert the cutlist (for the entire weldment)
4. Make your relative views of the individual pieces on new sheets (still all in one drawing).
5. Split the cutlist multiple times to get multiple cutlists.
6. Cut and paste these partial cutlists onto their respective sheets.

This will put the info for the detailed item on the same sheet as the relative view. The only thing is that the item numbers will still be incremented. I would make sure to balloon everything (even if it is the only thing on the sheet) to make sure the cutlist on that sheet is actually for that relative view.

Not sure if this will accomplish what you want, but thought I would throw it out there.

I hope this was clear, if not I can attach an example.

Lorne
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Anis Khan Jul 17, 2008 7:42 PM
Lorne, how do you "split the cutlist multiple time" ?

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1-6TXHTM Jul 17, 2008 7:50 PM
RMB on the row where you want the split, then select split on the menu and choose either above or below.
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Anis Khan Nov 19, 2009 9:40 PM
I just realized that this happens also when I simply close and re-open the drawing... There has to be a way to stop Solidworks from re-inserting all of the rows in the Weldment Cut List.
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