Impossible to give specific suggestions without seeing the parts, or at least a basic description of shape, size and features involved.
In general, the thickness of many sheet metal parts would not be suitable for plastic injection.
How many plastic production parts would be made, and in what material?
What are the parts supposed to do?
What types of volumes are they talking about producing?
Why does the post need to be made as a box section and not a c-channel or a two piece design?
Those parts look no harder to make in metal as they would as plastic. Just need some design and tolerance tweaks to make the metal stamping easier. Would they function properly as currently designed? Who knows, without having any idea of the engineering requirements.
What do they think they are going to spend on tooling, either molds or dies, to manufacture these parts?
Why do they think these would be cheaper out of plastic as opposed to sheet metal?
It looks like the parts could be made out of plastic with a fair amount of changes, but without having a whole lot more information on the intended function of the parts, volumes, engineering requirements, cost targets, etc, it is a crap shoot to give advice on how to proceed. It is just not that simple to give advice on how to design a part without having the complete picture of the engineering requirements.
Cheers,
Anna
David,
Listen to Anna and Kelvin. These look like they would be easy to supply as sheet metal parts and a bit of a pain to turn into plastic.
The long tubular part would be easy to do as a plastic extrusion, but you need to machine all of the holes in, just like you would in a metal extrusion.
The bracket parts could be molded, but you will need slides to generate the holes and a lot of thought will need to be given to wall thickness and draft requirements. If you need the stiffness of the 1/16" steel, you will need much thicker walls in any plastic and careful thought as to which plastics to use. A typical unfilled plastic has about 1% of the stiffness of steel. A highly filled material might get you to 5% or 10%. You will probably find that you need to change the geometry considerably to make the design work in plastic.
Depending on the quantities that you are going to be molding or stamping, you will probably find that the plastic tooling is more expensive up front. You might or might not get low enough part costs to make it pay.
Jerry Steiger
Sorry for the delay in posting back. My dsl modem got sick and is in the process of being replaced. Thank you to Jerry and Anna. I found out yesterday that he recieved a lot better price on steel tooling. The qty's were starting at 1,0000 assy's., requiring one past, 1 brkt base, and 3 Brkt adj. The plastic suggestion came from somebody else from his side. I relayed the information back to him from Jerry and Anna, He is currently working with the company that gave him a better tooling and part price. Again thank you, the quick response about the issues of requiring slides for the holes, and material requirements for strength definitely will keep these parts in steel.
P.S. It is an assy for setting wood fencing, based on the presetting a distance from top of the post and distance between each rail.(I.E. Kentucky horse farms, 3 rail fencing.) Best example I could think of.
David,
Listen to Anna and Kelvin. These look like they would be easy to supply as sheet metal parts and a bit of a pain to turn into plastic.
The long tubular part would be easy to do as a plastic extrusion, but you need to machine all of the holes in, just like you would in a metal extrusion.
The bracket parts could be molded, but you will need slides to generate the holes and a lot of thought will need to be given to wall thickness and draft requirements. If you need the stiffness of the 1/16" steel, you will need much thicker walls in any plastic and careful thought as to which plastics to use. A typical unfilled plastic has about 1% of the stiffness of steel. A highly filled material might get you to 5% or 10%. You will probably find that you need to change the geometry considerably to make the design work in plastic.
Depending on the quantities that you are going to be molding or stamping, you will probably find that the plastic tooling is more expensive up front. You might or might not get low enough part costs to make it pay.
Jerry Steiger