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How do I "redo" in Drawings?

Question asked by K. Nezumi on Dec 23, 2020
Latest reply on Dec 25, 2020 by K. Nezumi

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I am using 2021. I am a new user to SW but not to the concept of CAD drawing.

Today, my manual took me to the first drawing. Leaving aside a staggering number of issues that make little to no sense (I choose not to mention them here, on the off chance that, at a later point, I will find out more about them... as I said... off chance).

What brought me here however is a staggering issue, one I have never been confronted with... : it is not possible to redo actions in a drawing. Or, if it is possible, I haven't found a single post that mentions it. If there is a way to "undo" there should be a way to "redo". And even more confusing... the first time this issue was mentioned was.... 10 years ago... and yet, somehow the issue persists?

How do I "redo" in a drawing?

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Wayne Matus Dec 23, 2020 12:39 PM
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Yes, there is a Redo command, clockwise arrow.

If you are new to SOLIDWORKS and have experience with other CAD systems, use the Search Commands to find commands. Due to different syntax, you might have to try different words for the command.
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Scott Perman Dec 23, 2020 1:43 PM
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That must be new for 2021, because in 2020 there is no redo in a drawing. (At least not one that works.)

Welcome to solid-doesn't-works.
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- Wayne Matus @ Scott Perman on Dec 23, 2020 1:52 PM
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  You are right, it does not work in 2021 Sp0. I have not tried in Sp1.
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Frederick Law Dec 23, 2020 1:51 PM
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LOL
As other pointed out, undo work most of the time.
Redo require user to redo 50% of the time.

You might still have time for a refund.

LOL
Some one watching all my posts.
Hi Mod!
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Michael Miller Dec 23, 2020 1:57 PM
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2021 SP1 user here.

Undo does not work for me either.

Houston, we have a problem.

Roger.
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K. Nezumi Dec 24, 2020 7:34 AM
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@everyone

Thank you all for your replies, even though so far they did not contain a solution, your reactions have proven that, at least for now, I've not gone completely bonkers. There's yet time though...

@Wayne Matus

Hi

I am aware of the buttons you have provided images of. They are pretty buttons. Unfortunately, pretty buttons do not work, unless the stars are properly aligned, by the looks of it. I have found out that they have no issues working when it comes to the sketch environment. They also work in the part environment. Undo works perfectly in the drawing environment, unfortunately the redo button remains uncooperative in that same environment. So yes. Quite... ermh... interesting?

And yes, I am using the search command after a fashion. I don't like looking for commands. So I create my own shortcuts via customize and I bind them to my 120 shortcut buttons so I couldn't care less about menus and looking for the right tool for the job.

And yes, I am indeed new to SolidWorks. I began playing with it at the beginning of the week. Some of the things are senselessly complicated (like... why not put the extrude base/boss and the cut base/boss commands in the same tool, along with options such as join, new and intersect; and don't get me started on the property manager...) While SW isn't as bad as blender when it comes to overcomplicated menus I am still sighing over SketchUp and wish for simplicity - though, when it comes to things technically accurate - simplicity might be a little bit more difficult to attain than it is when it comes to concept design. Still... one can hope... though it seems that many in here have hoped for some decades already...

Oh well...

@ Scott Perman

That is quite possible, but I wouldn't know, I only have 2021 and I am teaching myself how to use the darn thing using the manual. So far, there was no mention of undo/redo in the manual and... now that I thought about it, I'm kinda looking forward to seeing how the authors are going to skate over this one, as far as I understand, this issue is anything but new, considering that another user brought this up in 2008 and someone else in 2014... Laggy devs, I guess...

@Frederik Law

Lol is a good reaction but not quite the one I had in mind when attempting to create my first drawing and realized that my views kept disappearing and redo (on my shortcuts) failed to bring them back. Mind-boggling, really. I mean... I know... when I make a mistake in my crochet and I undo several hours' worth of rows and then realize that my "undo" was incorrect, that I had modified the pattern and then forgotten about it... yes... I wish I had a "redo" and I have to live without it. But in software I thought this "redo" concept was merely a matter of setting up a tidy little buffer to save the operations and then allow the application to pull rabbits out of its hat. I guess there's no magic here, then...

As for the refund... Not my call. And I am yet unconvinced that this is an inferior software. It appears to have some interesting tools I am looking forward to playing with (also might break them) so for the time being I'm willing to give it a go. I merely wish, as I stated above, that simplicity was easier attained in the program. Sketchup is wonderful (yes, I know... I'm probably breaking an unwritten law "Thoust shallst not speaketh of the cursed SketchUp"), you have about 10 to 15 tools to get you moving and then, if you want more, you hope that someone wrote a nifty little add-on and is willing to share it, for free or for peanuts.

@Michael Miller
Indeed. And the soviets cannot solve that problem by using a mere pencil instead of a fountain pen. Go figure.

@everyone

Is there a way to request a bugfix for this issue? Or is there an idea forum somewhere, where good ideas can go and die in peace... something like... pet cemetery only with ideas instead of pets?
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- Wayne Matus @ K. Nezumi on Dec 24, 2020 3:17 PM
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  For bugs, you can contact your VAR. They will forward to SOLIDWORKS and provide a workaround if there is one.
  
  For new features, you can do that yourself. It will require you to create an account to customer portal. In that you can submit an Enhancement Request.
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Glenn Schroeder Dec 24, 2020 4:09 PM
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Welcome to the forum. In the 11 years I've been using SW I've found that the Undo feature is consistent, but part of that means that there are some functions that it consistently doesn't work for. For example, if you accidentally delete a drawing view, or something similar, it works fine. However, if you change sheet formats, drawing view style from Hidden Lines Removed to something else, and a variety of other functions, it doesn't work at all.

Now that I have that out of the way, I'll give you the advice I pretty much always give to people learning SW after working with another CAD program: "Forget everything you knew about that program, and especially don't expect SW to work the same way it did." If you can follow that advice you'll find learning SW much more enjoyable, or at least less frustrating.
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K. Nezumi Dec 25, 2020 1:23 AM
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@ Everyone

Thank you for your replies.

@Wayne Matus

Thank you for letting me know about the VAR. I surmise that the VAR is the reseller? If so, I will take it up with them in January.

I would however point out that this issue has been ongoing for more than 10 years and it still hasn't been fixed. If you look up topics, there will be one from 2008 I believe.

As for the concept of contacting sales to open a bug fix, I honestly find that offensive. It tells me that SW doesn't do support or that their support doesn't want to talk directly to the user. Which only serves to enforce the fact that SW isn't interested in being user-friendly.

#Glenn Schroeder

I haven't gone out of my way to test the "undo" function because that sort of works, or at least, I haven't found an issue with it. What I have an issue with, is the "redo" function which remains continuously greyed out in the drawing environment.

But you can test the issue by deleting a view, then pressing "undo" and then trying to "redo". Apparently pressing the "undo" button empties the buffer and leaves nothing for the "redo" button to do. And this is a bug. Try it in wordpad. Write a couple of words, delete them, undo the delete and then redo the delete, it works like a charm. The buffer is only emptied if, after several "undo" actions, you perform an action different from "redo", and only up to the last "undo". This behaviour is the same in the sketch environment in SW.

Your advice is quite correct. One should never assume. However. When SW is an almost identical copy of another CAD (it shall not be mentioned which) it is rather difficult not to assume. I mean, it is the human thing to do, otherwise the concept of learning would be pointless, wouldn't it? When we learn, we use our current life experience, as limited as it may be, to comprehend circumstances and react to them. If this weren't the case, then learning would be impossible, wouldn't it?

And, at least for the time being, I don't think that SW is enjoyable or frustrating. It feels like I haven't really switched the CAD, it just feels like I ended up with a version with more features and heavier UI. When I did teach myself that other CAD, after using SketchUp, that was truly truly horrendous, mainly because SketchUp is all about drawing and CAD software is all about procedures. If I had the choice, there is no question which I would pick. But I will openly admit that SketchUp cannot produce the kind of flexibility built into parametric CAD. If this changes in the future, SketchUp will likely become just as convoluted as what we currently see in parametric CAD, unless they have very good devs who are able to produce the same results without needlessly complicating things. Again... simple is best. Complex is fascinating, but the more you have, the more likely it is to break. You know... like with over-complicated sketches?
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Deep Shukla Dec 25, 2020 4:10 AM
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Hello,

I think Redo is available from 2021, but it is possible with the 60 features only.
May be drawing is also not supporting Redo.

Thanks.
Deep Shukla
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K. Nezumi Dec 25, 2020 5:00 AM
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Thank you for your reply.

I wouldn't know anything about which version supports "redo" and which one does not. As the matter of fact, if we were to be discussing that, I am pretty sure there would be no SW in 2021, at least one would hope.

60 operations (not features) are more than reasonable. IF they actually worked, which they do not in the drawing environment. And that is precisely what we are discussing here. There (in the drawing environment), the "redo" button remains greyed out.
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