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Question asked by Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020
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Hello, can someone explain what is going on with my default templates, im going crazy with this SolidBug...

Templates are set, paths are in folders location and files exists

somehow SW creates and keeps creating new parts and drawings in my assembly templates folder no matter how many times i delete them..

in the end it seems i can just have the templates wich the crap programmers decided i must have

No SW, iv payed for this crap and at least i would like to choose my templates, i know this is a big wish,maybe too dificult for the kind of programmers that seems to work in the developement of SolidBug, nothing seems to work in this program, and they like to excuse mainly with graphic cards, well i have a brand new RTX Quadro 5000, and i keep facing every day all kind of bugs, crashes, things that are suposed to work and simply does not work, but yeah, 2020 with lots of new features wow, congratz, new features, the very old same bugs... shame on you!

MS Should start to ban crap software, maybe this way at some point we will pay and get for what we pay, stable software to work, most of us work 8+ hours every day with a sotware, its frustrating to never know what will happen at the next click, shame on a software that costs 10.000 a licence and the most important command should be CTRL+S (SAVE) after every command so you can be sure no work loss... unfortunately for me i must work with this... for now is what we have in company...

Jim Sculley Mar 18, 2020 10:54 AM

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Bruno:

You are making an assumption about what 'Default Template' means. It has nothing to do with what template is used when you make a new part/assembly/drawing. Forget about that setting for now. It has nothing to do with your problem.

If you want the 'Novice' setting to use your templates, you need to place them in the folder that is listed in your System Options for the Document Template file location. For example, here is my file location setting:

In that folder, I have Part.prtdot, and Assembly.asmdot. I do not have a drawing template in there.

I have several subfolders with various drawing templates:

In the Advanced view, I see this:

Notice that Part and Assembly are in the Templates folder, not in any subfolder. In the novice view, I get this:

Drawing is grayed out because as I said above, I do not have a Drawing.drwdot in the Templates folder. If I add one, I see this:

If I select Part, and click OK, SOLIDWORKS uses the Part.prtdot in the templates folder.

You should not have more than one of each template in the top folder. If you do, SW will pick one. It may or may not be the one you want. It seems to do it alphabetically, but I would not count on that.

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Krzysztof Szpakowski Mar 18, 2020 4:07 AM
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Do you have one SW version or more on your computer? If more
(I read somewhere on the forum) you need to create additional catalogs for templates, libraries etc. for each version. Unfortunately, the SW installer does not do this. Maybe it causes a problem. I remember Frederick Law wrote about it.
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Bruno Frade @ Krzysztof Szpakowski on Mar 18, 2020 4:36 AM
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i have a single instalation of SW 2019 SP5 , its one week old instalation in a brand new computer...
for what i understand sw search for specific template names like "part.prtdot" for parts and "assembly.asmdot" for assemblies and if dont find he create them, cant understand the logic of this... i want to choose my "NoMaterName.ptrdot" as my part template and finish, simple as that
sw developers could have a condition like:

if(partTemplate == null)
{
createDefaultTemplateAndUseIt();
}
...
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The Merovingien Mar 18, 2020 6:52 AM
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After installing SW, do you used a *.sldreg file to setup SW setting ?

In your case, i suspect your *.sldreg generate this new bug.

It's better to know how to do a correct "fresh install",
or how to do the correct procedure to "upgrade from SW to SW+1"

Many people believe using "sldreg" is a good way, but in reality sometimes it's a false-friend,

If you don't know how to manage/clean the *.sldreg and anticipate/correct the evolution
of some new settings from "new SWxx".
It can contain "bug" or generate "new bug" that is totally independant from the "SW job".

Some years ago, i didn't do that, bu now i do it correctly, and i saw "some bugs diseapper"...
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John Stoltzfus Mar 18, 2020 7:02 AM
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Bruno Frade - Sounds like you need a Lot of Toilet Paper with all that "crap"

Surely it's as simple as a setting being wrong
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Mark Greenwell Mar 18, 2020 7:31 AM
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Bruno,

Where is your file location pointing to for you Document Templates,. I save all my drawings in one folder on my C: drive and have the file location point to this folder.

Thanks

Mark
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Glenn Schroeder Mar 18, 2020 7:58 AM
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The problem isn't with the software, but with your workflow.
1. In your first screenshot, check the option for "Prompt user to choose document template."
2. Go to Tools > Options > System Options > File Locations > Document Templates. Point it to the location where you've saved your templates. I'd suggest moving them somewhere other than the default location (out of the SW installation folders) so you won't lose them when you upgrade to a newer version.
3. When the "New Document" window pops up, choose the "Advanced" button in the lower left corner. That will open a different window that will allow you to choose which template you want to use.
There's more information, with screenshots, at Why aren't the changes I made at Tools > Options > Document Properties saved when I start a new Part? that you might find useful.
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Bruno Frade @ Glenn Schroeder on Mar 18, 2020 8:06 AM
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Hello,

In your first screenshot, check the option for "Prompt user to choose document template."
-Ii dont want it, thats why the screen with default templates is there, is to be used... if i want other then default then i move to your step 3

Go to Tools > Options > System Options > File Locations > Document Templates. Point it to the location where you've saved your templates. I'd suggest moving them somewhere other than the default location (out of the SW installation folders) so you won't lose them when you upgrade to a newer version.
- Tey are not in instalation folder, the folder SOLIDWORKS-DATA is my personal folder where i have all SW related things, library components,table templates, document templates and so on...

When the "New Document" window pops up, choose the "Advanced" button in the lower left corner. That will open a different window that will allow you to choose which template you want to use.
- i use that only when want to use other then the default, otherwise what is the meaning of default part template, default assembly template, default drawing?
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Bruno Frade @ Mark Greenwell on Mar 18, 2020 8:11 AM
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Hello,

this is my folder structure, SOLIDWORKS-DATA is created in "c:"
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Frederick Law Mar 18, 2020 8:13 AM
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Put all templates in one folder: C:\SOLIDWORKS-DATA\DOCUMENT TEMPLATES.
You can have folders in there.
Set File Locations - "Document Templates" to "C:\SOLIDWORKS-DATA\DOCUMENT TEMPLATES" ONLY!

And Click the "Advanced" button on the lower left.
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Bruno Frade @ Frederick Law on Mar 18, 2020 8:33 AM
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Hello,
i think i was not clear enough:
this is my folder structure, with all templates separated based on what is for me the best structure:
then:
then:
because for every costumer i have different sheet format,setup,font ... etc

this is all ok and folders all included as you can see in first post, now the question is i have a part, a assembly and a drawing that i use 80% of times, and that i want to choose from my templates, some part, some assembly, and some drawing, no matter the folder where they are, path is a string, as soon as my path doesnt have special characters it should work, when i click in my default part button in
program should just read my chosen and saved path and get the template...

other from this is a bug...

of course,
me and a lot of persons here in forum can in 10 mins create a block of code to solve this...
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Jim Sculley @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 8:31 AM
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The 'default' templates are used when SOLIDWORKS creates new files as part of a feature or other operation. For example, when you perform a Split operation, or when you import an IGES or STEP file.
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Frederick Law @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 8:35 AM
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My advice stay the same.
Try.
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Bruno Frade @ Frederick Law on Mar 18, 2020 8:46 AM
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I Agree with your advice,
i dont know it will work or not, but this just proves what i say till here, this is a buggy software who costs a lot of money and users are forced to find "ways" to make it work, our energy as designers should go for create a product without flaws, for this we relly on a tool that should be developed to work without flaws as well, specially in such basic thing as choose the templates... instead of annouce full features list for new version they should care to solve the enough problems the program have...
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Frederick Law @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 8:51 AM
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It is buggy but you're setting to many location for template which is not required.
Also you're using "novice" mode which WILL NOT show templates in sub-folders.
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Bruno Frade @ Frederick Law on Mar 18, 2020 8:55 AM
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yes they are required, in each location are templates fron that sepecific costumer, and that i see in advanced tab, till here all ok,

but i want to have the 3 i use most set as DEFAULT templates, if i dont choose advanced tab sw must pick the default template for part, for assembly or for drawing...
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Frederick Law @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 9:05 AM
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You're wasting your energy to waste my energy on giving you advice on wasted energy.

What you're doing doesn't work.
So are you going to try do it another way or keep doing what you're doing?

Of course you can stop using Solidworks.
I don't like either
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Todd Blacksher Mar 18, 2020 9:08 AM
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Please post a screenshot of your Advanced tab for reference.
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Glenn Schroeder @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 9:11 AM
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Bruno Frade wrote:

yes they are required, in each location are templates fron that sepecific costumer, and that i see in advanced tab, till here all ok,

but i want to have the 3 i use most set as DEFAULT templates, if i dont choose advanced tab sw must pick the default template for part, for assembly or for drawing...

Go back to my reply above, and the blog post I linked to. In that post I discussed exactly what to do in that situation. You can have sub-folders in the template location, which will add tabs to the "Advanced" template dialog box. You have your most often used templates in the top level folder and lesser used ones in the sub-folder (or sub-folders). It's a matter of just clicking on the tab in the dialog box to access them. Again, like I said above, the issue isn't with the software, but with your workflow.
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Bruno Frade @ Frederick Law on Mar 18, 2020 9:11 AM
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Workaround found:
all folders structure can stay as is and all work as i want, separated in folders wich in turn show in separated tabs in advanced view...,
need to create a separated folder and put there a copy of the 3 template wanted as part, assembly and drawing :

this way all is working, default templates accepted by program,for me it proves the problem is how software deal with document paths default templates must reside in same folder, not sure if the right conclusion but somehow its working...
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Frederick Law @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 9:14 AM
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What we've been telling you.
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Bruno Frade @ Todd Blacksher on Mar 18, 2020 9:16 AM
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now i got the default folder shown here as well but is minnor problem
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Mark Greenwell @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 9:16 AM
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Bruno, so was it the crappy software that was at fault or the crappy operator tor the not understanding the file structure?

regards

Mark
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Bruno Frade @ Frederick Law on Mar 18, 2020 9:18 AM
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force me to use advanced tab at every document, i want to have DEFAULT documents
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Glenn Schroeder @ Bruno Frade on Mar 18, 2020 9:23 AM
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I give up.
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Bruno Frade @ Mark Greenwell on Mar 18, 2020 9:23 AM
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is the crappy sofware that cant save 3 string settings with 3 different paths each pointing to each template watever they are, simply, you can have 10 folders with templates, but you cant pick 3 templates amoug them...
im not a pro programmer but i can give you a solution where you can pic 3 files in your file system mo matter where ans save their paths to registry and later read them when you want... simple as drinking water...
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