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True angle in cutlist

Question asked by Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019
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Hi all, How is it possible to get the true cut off angle of a weldment frame?
For tube number 7 both angles are 45° in the table but I would need to get 45° and 135° in the table. Anybody know how?

Thanks for any help.

Frank

Glenn Schroeder Dec 9, 2019 8:39 AM

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See below. I'm not aware of a simpler way to make it work

Start a new sketch on the same plane as the weldment body (or one parallel to it). Insert a construction line and make it colinear with the cut end, which will fully define it. Insert a driven dimension for the angle value. Close the sketch.
Open the Cut-List Properties dialog box.
Clear the box for the desired angle in the "Linked" column (black arrow).
Click on the sketch in the tree to show it, along with the driven dimension (blue arrow). (If it doesn't show up when you click on the sketch in the tree then you probably don't have instant 3d turned on, in which case double-clicking instead should work.)
Clear the appropriate box in the "Value / Text Expression" box (black box). With your cursor active in that box, click on the angle dimension in the graphics area to link it to the cut list property, then hold down your Alt key and type 0176 to enter the degree symbol.

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Kevin Chandler Dec 9, 2019 7:25 AM

Hello,

It's best to upload your files directly to the forum, see Mr. Schroeder's helpful FAQ for assistance with this.

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Otherwise, you may be limiting the number of replies you will receive.

I won't go to where your files are and I'm thinking other respondents may not either.

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Maha Nadarasa @ Kevin Chandler on Dec 9, 2019 7:50 AM

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Hello,

I won't go to where your files are and I'm thinking other respondents may not either.

Kevin

It is a good point. When seeking others help to solve your issue it is better to find out ways to make others life easy.

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Frank Van Eygen @ Kevin Chandler on Dec 9, 2019 7:51 AM

Kevin Chandler Thanks for pointing this out to me.

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Kevin Chandler Dec 9, 2019 8:10 AM

Sorry. future version for me.

Mr. Schroeder works with cut lists often and I believe he can be of assistance to you.

Kevin

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Glenn Schroeder Dec 9, 2019 8:39 AM

See below. I'm not aware of a simpler way to make it work

Start a new sketch on the same plane as the weldment body (or one parallel to it). Insert a construction line and make it colinear with the cut end, which will fully define it. Insert a driven dimension for the angle value. Close the sketch.
Open the Cut-List Properties dialog box.
Clear the box for the desired angle in the "Linked" column (black arrow).
Click on the sketch in the tree to show it, along with the driven dimension (blue arrow). (If it doesn't show up when you click on the sketch in the tree then you probably don't have instant 3d turned on, in which case double-clicking instead should work.)
Clear the appropriate box in the "Value / Text Expression" box (black box). With your cursor active in that box, click on the angle dimension in the graphics area to link it to the cut list property, then hold down your Alt key and type 0176 to enter the degree symbol.

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Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 8:51 AM

Thank you Glenn Schroeder. This looks like a good "work around".

Would you think that there is a possibility to do this with a macro?

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Glenn Schroeder @ Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019 9:03 AM

Frank Van Eygen wrote:

Thank you Glenn Schroeder. This looks like a good "work around".
Would you think that there is a possibility to do this with a macro?

I don't know enough about macros to be able to answer that. If someone else doesn't answer in the next hour or so I'd suggest starting a new Discussion in the API section of this forum. You could link to this one to explain what you want it to do.

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Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 9:08 AM

Thank you Glenn Schroeder for your help!

I will add a new API discussion for this.

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Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:10 AM

Glenn Schroeder would you know of a way to get the rotation angle of let's say part 6, 5, 3 and 2 in the table?

They both have a profile rotation of 90° to the first cut but I can not find anything in the properties to use for this.

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Glenn Schroeder @ Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019 10:08 AM

Frank Van Eygen wrote:

Glenn Schroeder would you know of a way to get the rotation angle of let's say part 6 and 2 in the table?
They both have a profile rotation of 90° to the first cut but I can not find anything in the properties to use for this.

I don't. Do you mind me asking why you need that? Surely the fabricator would have a couple of drawing views to look at, and not just the cut list?

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Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:17 AM

We design and fabricate everything in-house.

We have a cutting machine that can work semi-automatically with the cut angles provided/exported by SW.

With the goal of getting this cutting machine to the next level of automation (and making less mistakes) this is something our draftsmen have missed for a long time.

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Glenn Schroeder @ Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019 10:28 AM

Off the top of my head the only thing I can think of would be to add a cut list property in your Part for that, enter the information manually, then add a column referencing that property in your cut list in the Drawing.

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Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:45 AM

Strange that the SW cut list can not provide a true representation of all the parts to be cut. Only the cut length and a cut angle but regardless of plane ;-(

Adding this info manually would be the only option for now but I'm pretty persistent. If this requires an API solution then it will have to be, but because my SW API skills are still limited it will take a while to get there.

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Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:23 AM

The cutting machine operator does indeed only have a cut list of all the part he/she needs to cut.No drawing views are provided for him/her.

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Kevin Chandler Dec 9, 2019 7:25 AM
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Hello,

It's best to upload your files directly to the forum, see Mr. Schroeder's helpful FAQ for assistance with this.
How can I attach a file to a forum post?

Otherwise, you may be limiting the number of replies you will receive.
I won't go to where your files are and I'm thinking other respondents may not either.

Click "Edit" at the top of your post to add the files to the OP.

Kevin
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- Maha Nadarasa @ Kevin Chandler on Dec 9, 2019 7:50 AM
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  Kevin Chandler wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I won't go to where your files are and I'm thinking other respondents may not either.
  
  Kevin
  It is a good point. When seeking others help to solve your issue it is better to find out ways to make others life easy.
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- Frank Van Eygen @ Kevin Chandler on Dec 9, 2019 7:51 AM
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  Kevin Chandler Thanks for pointing this out to me.
  The files have been added.
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Kevin Chandler Dec 9, 2019 8:10 AM
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Sorry. future version for me.
Mr. Schroeder works with cut lists often and I believe he can be of assistance to you.

Kevin
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Glenn Schroeder Dec 9, 2019 8:39 AM
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See below. I'm not aware of a simpler way to make it work
1. Start a new sketch on the same plane as the weldment body (or one parallel to it). Insert a construction line and make it colinear with the cut end, which will fully define it. Insert a driven dimension for the angle value. Close the sketch.
2. Open the Cut-List Properties dialog box.
3. Clear the box for the desired angle in the "Linked" column (black arrow).
4. Click on the sketch in the tree to show it, along with the driven dimension (blue arrow). (If it doesn't show up when you click on the sketch in the tree then you probably don't have instant 3d turned on, in which case double-clicking instead should work.)
5. Clear the appropriate box in the "Value / Text Expression" box (black box). With your cursor active in that box, click on the angle dimension in the graphics area to link it to the cut list property, then hold down your Alt key and type 0176 to enter the degree symbol.
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- Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 8:51 AM
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  Thank you Glenn Schroeder. This looks like a good "work around".
  Would you think that there is a possibility to do this with a macro?
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  - Glenn Schroeder @ Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019 9:03 AM
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    Frank Van Eygen wrote:
    
    Thank you Glenn Schroeder. This looks like a good "work around".
    Would you think that there is a possibility to do this with a macro?
    
    I don't know enough about macros to be able to answer that. If someone else doesn't answer in the next hour or so I'd suggest starting a new Discussion in the API section of this forum. You could link to this one to explain what you want it to do.
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    - Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 9:08 AM
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      Thank you Glenn Schroeder for your help!
      I will add a new API discussion for this.
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- Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:10 AM
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  Glenn Schroeder would you know of a way to get the rotation angle of let's say part 6, 5, 3 and 2 in the table?
  They both have a profile rotation of 90° to the first cut but I can not find anything in the properties to use for this.
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  - Glenn Schroeder @ Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019 10:08 AM
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    Frank Van Eygen wrote:
    
    Glenn Schroeder would you know of a way to get the rotation angle of let's say part 6 and 2 in the table?
    They both have a profile rotation of 90° to the first cut but I can not find anything in the properties to use for this.
    
    I don't. Do you mind me asking why you need that? Surely the fabricator would have a couple of drawing views to look at, and not just the cut list?
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    - Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:17 AM
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      We design and fabricate everything in-house.
      We have a cutting machine that can work semi-automatically with the cut angles provided/exported by SW.
      With the goal of getting this cutting machine to the next level of automation (and making less mistakes) this is something our draftsmen have missed for a long time.
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      - Glenn Schroeder @ Frank Van Eygen on Dec 9, 2019 10:28 AM
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        Off the top of my head the only thing I can think of would be to add a cut list property in your Part for that, enter the information manually, then add a column referencing that property in your cut list in the Drawing.
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        Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:45 AM
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        Strange that the SW cut list can not provide a true representation of all the parts to be cut. Only the cut length and a cut angle but regardless of plane ;-(
        Adding this info manually would be the only option for now but I'm pretty persistent. If this requires an API solution then it will have to be, but because my SW API skills are still limited it will take a while to get there.
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    - Frank Van Eygen @ Glenn Schroeder on Dec 9, 2019 10:23 AM
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      The cutting machine operator does indeed only have a cut list of all the part he/she needs to cut.No drawing views are provided for him/her.
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