Since moving to my new employer, I've been using SW2015 and have found it to be chock-full of bugs. My biggest gripe is that new drawing views don't automatically link to the BOM.
Which version has caused you the most grief?
Whatever the latest version is. Sure they fix bugs in each new release but in my experience they add a just as many. Plus with Windows10 (worst operating system ever starting from Win XP) always updating whatever it wants, it is even worst yet. I never used SW2015 but I had heard it was not quite as stable as other releases.
Still using 2015? On Windows 98?
2017 by far. 2018 is much better.
2008 and 2015
Oh my! 2015 was terrible.
If I recall correctly custom properties were broken and the configuration of an inserted part had its own demonic autonomy.
To be fair I've noted significant improvements in 16 and 18. We skipped 17.
There are still plenty of silly bugs to be found. I found a new one yesterday where radio buttons in property tab builder delete your properties.
2016 before they offered the classic icon set (SP3?).
Solid Air wrote: Plus with Windows10 .......... always updating whatever it wants,
Solid Air wrote:
Plus with Windows10 .......... always updating whatever it wants,
You can prevent it from downloading and installing updates in Group Policy. They only removed it from Control panel to prevent novice users playing with it.
Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update\Configure Automatic Updates
For me who mainly use SW for sheet metal almost all versions are the same. SW's sheet metal has never had a major improvement. They added a lot of new features that only is used maybe once a year, but never attempted to solve the main problems.
With 2019 version:
S-054089: Why is the edge flange sketch not fully defined after defining the flange length through the PropertyManager?
SPR 981178: Arrange favorites drop down list in hole wizard feature in Alphanumeric order or custom order list.
SPR 545510: It should be possible to sort favorites (dimension, notes, hole wizard) alphababetically rather than in the order they have been created
2015 and 2017 were both full of bugs. I didn't like the new icon set in 2016. (Was it 2016?).
I was a happy camper when they put the option to use the classic icon set into SP3.0.
2012 to 2014 SP0
The first one.
Without that, we won't have this mess
Haha! Not quite that bad, but we'll be coming out of the dark ages at the end of the year. Finally moving to PDM2020 and SW 2019.
Frederick Law - we'd all be trying to help at the Convention Event Inventing the Inventor Invention - that would be a mess...
2004 sp 24 ?
2009 when they changed routing?
2010 the year i got stuck on auto cad.
It's been quite a while ago, but I think it was the one that introduced the "Enhancement" that would merge Notes when you'd drag one close to another one. It drove me nuts until they added the option to disable it. There have been several other enhancements I haven't liked, but that's the one that's really stuck in my memory.
I'll give the SW folks credit; in recent years they've gotten much better about giving options to turn off new features right away.
Roland Schwarz wrote: Still using 2015? On Windows 98?
Roland Schwarz wrote:
I'm Still stuck on 2015 also (lots of crashes) for no reason, but at least I am on Windows 7.
Windows 7---the best Microsoft has ever done! Still run that on all my machines, but suppose I'll soon be pushed off the cliff. At least I've had a lot of experience repairing other people's Windows 10 machines, so I already know where most of the privacy/toy/stupidity settings are and how to disable them.
Jeff Mowry wrote: Windows 7---the best Microsoft has ever done! Still run that on all my machines, but suppose I'll soon be pushed off the cliff. At least I've had a lot of experience repairing other people's Windows 10 machines, so I already know where most of the privacy/toy/stupidity settings are and how to disable them.
Jeff Mowry wrote:
A lot of the rest of us are going to be pushed off that same cliff so we may ask you to share a list of the privacy/toy/stupidity settings.
Well, maybe not the toys. ;-)
Get new computer for 10.
An old Pentium Dual take hours to update.
Once it finish, its usable until next update.
Then a brand new Dell i7 won't boot after 1903. Need to reinstall Windows from USB.
I can totally remember 2008 & 2015 both being really horrible.
The first thing when starting up Windows 10 for the first time is to set it up as a local account, rather than the Microsoft-account-linked way they try to jam you into (toy and data-mining feature). Generally this shouldn't be a problem, even for downloading Microsoft-account-linked software (such as Office 365), since you can sign in online to download that software and don't need it to be permanently linked to your user account, and therefore your computer/device forever and ever.
Don't use the Edge browser. It's free, so that means Microsoft will likely behave with Edge exactly as they've done with free software in the past (Outlook Express, Microsoft Security Essentials, Internet Explorer, etc.) and simply abandon it later, leaving you in the lurch. Plus, make sure you change your default PDF reader to either Adobe Reader (which I don't like because of it's ridiculously slow, bloated nature) or the PDF reader of your choice. Also, if you're privacy-minded, don't use Chrome either (see their ridiculous EULA for the many reasons). Instead, use Firefox or Brave (and learn how to manage your privacy in each). Brave can now make use of all Chrome's add-ins/extensions, so that's awesome.
Don't use the default Mail app, either, since 1) it's not very versatile, and 2) if you need to do something easy, such as change the password (as Gmail insists you do several times a month) you basically have to delete the account and set it up again, waiting for it to download all two million emails again (last I tried it, which was just over a year ago). Lame. Plus, since it's "free", they're almost certain to abandon it in the near future (see above). Users of Outlook have Outlook, so no big deal. I prefer the much more flexible Mozilla Thunderbird for email, though for scheduling, etc. Outlook probably has slightly better tools.
This first article is a couple of years old, and Windows 10 has since changed their interface for some of these items multiple times. However, one thing that works well in Windows 10 is the search function (Cortana, lower-left corner of your screen)---so since some interface items won't look the same, you can simply search each item's name from this old article to do (essentially) the same thing:
One huge win is Microsoft's (alleged) stop to forced updates all the time no matter what you're doing:
Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates
We'll see if this is really true in practice for the future.
Here's a more recent article on what Microsoft's doing behind the scenes (even against your permission) and some things you can do to mitigate that:
Windows 10 Sends Your Activity History to Microsoft, Even if You Tell It Not To
That's probably enough for now. Good luck!
That is nice to know but I have no control of our IT department. They have there own agenda and it takes hard data to get them to change.
I realize many on here think I am nuts regarding air gapping our critical stuff from the internet.
Guess what, the only way that our critical files can be stolen is from a physical intrusion.
Plus, I don't have any of the problems and quirks that are not reproducible on a consistent basis.
Additionally, the only 2 applications installed on the CAD workstation is Solidworks and Solidcam. Years ago the workstations had internet and plenty of other stuff installed. Back then it was always this or that going on.
Try doing a standalone CAD station with no internet and only Solidworks, I believe many will be shocked at the change in performance, I know my blood pressure has been lower ever since air gapping.
If you are going to do that I recommend doing bare metal install of the OS onto a SSD, its the best solution. Our stuff is taken off site to a "secret" location to commission Windows and grab all the current up dates.
Retrieving data ...