I have SW 2017 with workgroup pdm and SW2018 with std pdm. is it possible for SW2017 to work in the SW2018 pdm std vault?
Hi Christian, sorry but that's incorrect. PDM (Pro or Standard) always has to be at the same level or newer than your SolidWorks CAD. So if you have 2018 PDM, but 2017 SolidWorks that's fine. However 2017 PDM and 2018 SolidWorks will not work.
So what David has is fine. PDM Standard more specifically is only supported by SolidWorks for the current version ie if you have PDM Standard 2018, you are supported for using SolidWorks 2018. It will work with older versions as well however.
No, its not
SW2018 can run on 2017 pdm but not another way
Prasad Bhonsule wrote: Hi Christian, sorry but that's incorrect. PDM (Pro or Standard) always has to be at the same level or newer than your SolidWorks CAD. So if you have 2018 PDM, but 2017 SolidWorks that's fine. However 2017 PDM and 2018 SolidWorks will not work. So what David has is fine. PDM Standard more specifically is only supported by SolidWorks for the current version ie if you have PDM Standard 2018, you are supported for using SolidWorks 2018. It will work with older versions as well however. Kind regards Prasad Bhonsule
Prasad Bhonsule wrote:
You're absolutely right (PDM pro or std). I was thinking of workgroup in my response
In my case, I installed SW2018 before upgrading PDM standard 2017 to 2018 and its installer kicked off (or just caution?)PDM standard client 2018. We needed to update Windows Server 2008R2 to 2016 and SQL Express 2014 either (you have a range of versions to choose) in order to install PDM std 2018. PDM pro has whole different story that can handle SW older versions, run on standard SQL and etc. I recommend to keep PDM and SW with the same level of major versions always, if you don't want to pay for pro grade.
Hi, see about Compatibility with solidworks PDM Products.
SOLIDWORKS Data Management 2018 SP5 Release Notes
I have verified that SW2017 pdm std can indeed see the 2018 pdm std vault and check-in/check-out parts in the SW2018 vault. this is actually very surprising and it would seem SW goofed up as they are not a fan of compatibility, it hurts their bottom line!
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Honestly, I think this is all a bunch of crap to put it bluntly ...
I don't know if it's simply to get more money out of all the users (likely this is the only reason) or what the real reason is but it sucks.
We had been running SW2017 when we were finally able to upgrade to PDM Standard 2018. Upon upgrading to SW2019 this year we ran into more issues with updating the entire PDM Vault to current prior to being able to upgrade to SW2019. The entire thing is a giant PITA where all we wanted was to have the ability to use the older PDM Workgroup.
Did I say yet how BS this entire PDM thing is ...
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Thank you for the head up, John
I made a smooth transition from wPDM to PDM std last yr as we upgraded to to SW2018 - Learning is the key thru the process
and I'm about to upgrade to the 2019 - Any issues you want the share?
No issues to speak of ... The only issue was that it was not something that was known by our IT Department prior to the SW2019 install and all hell broke loose because of it.
I understand your frustration but SOLIDWORKS really can't technically manage it any other way. For example:
However, the inverse is not true:
It's generally considered best practice (in my circles at least) to update to the desired PDM version first, then later update the SOLIDWORKS version if a two step process is desired (it can be done all at once if your scope/scale is small enough/IT can handle it).
I thinks it's due to how the new Windows environment handles the software. I don't think it's 100% a way for SW to make money off of us. Of course, it's a business, and there are opportunities. If it were my business, I would upgrade the software to work to my benefit also. That's business!
We are in the process right now of updating everything from Workgroup to PDM, a lot of work to change the servers.
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