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Because of this Forum: SW2020 - Drawings open fast for detailing!!!

Question asked by Alin Vargatu on Feb 12, 2019
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I am so happy! SOLIDWORKS R&D listened to us!

Looks like in SW2020 Detached functionality is merged in the standard drawings!!!

Finally we have a drawing environment that is responsive to detailers.

One more note: if you will benefit from this huge enhancement, send a thank you note to our forum colleague, Grant Mattis.

Long story, short, everything started with Grant.

Also, many thanks to Solidworks Swcare, Mark Johnson for being the first to listen to Grant and for bringing in the cavalry.

Update: The whole story can be read here: https://www.engineersrule.com/potential-game-changer-no-pain-detailing-large-drawings/

Update: Detailing mode made it through BETA testing and is now in the 202 version of SOLIDWORKS!!!

Read all about it here: https://www.engineersrule.com/whats-new-in-solidworks-2020-detailing-mode/ in an excellent research article written by my mentor Joe Medeiros.

Alin Vargatu Sep 27, 2019 12:57 PM

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Update: Detailing mode made it through BETA testing and is now in the SOLIDWORKS 2020!!!

Read all about it here: https://www.engineersrule.com/whats-new-in-solidworks-2020-detailing-mode/ in an excellent research article written by my mentorJoe Medeiros.

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John Stoltzfus Feb 12, 2019 10:45 AM
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wooooooo

Alin Vargatu - Thanks for your involvement and you as well Grant Mattis

The overall census of SW users verses forumers is really lopsided, however the weight balance is - "Right Here on the Forum" - Get involved and make a difference, SW is listening - ONE TWO
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Dave Laban Feb 12, 2019 11:03 AM
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Would be interesting to know how long that particular functionality has been in development from "let's see if we can do this" to release.
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Alin Vargatu @ Dave Laban on Feb 12, 2019 11:07 AM
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The work just started. It was just because of you that this project was picked.

This is huge and it has a nice background story. I will tell it today in the Large Drawings session at #sww19
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Tony Tieuli @ Alin Vargatu on Feb 12, 2019 11:15 AM
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Alin Vargatu wrote:

The work just started. It was just because of you that this project was picked.

This is huge and it has a nice background story. I will tell it today in the Large Drawings session at #sww19
Alin Vargatu Will that be livestreamed?
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Dave Laban @ Alin Vargatu on Feb 12, 2019 11:18 AM
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Happy to be proven wrong but I'd be genuinely surprised if that functionality has been scoped out, approved for prototyping and developed sufficiently far for a presentation video to commit to SW2020 release in the 8 work days since voting ended on the Top Ten List this year (less, given the presentation video pack probably had to be signed off by last week at the absolute latest). I'd still be pretty stunned if they had only started it at the beginning of the voting window and/or idea submission stage.
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Alin Vargatu @ Tony Tieuli on Feb 12, 2019 11:19 AM
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Tony Tieuli wrote:

Alin Vargatu wrote:

The work just started. It was just because of you that this project was picked.

This is huge and it has a nice background story. I will tell it today in the Large Drawings session at #sww19
Alin Vargatu Will that be livestreamed?

No, but will be recorded and made available in a week or so.
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Alin Vargatu @ Dave Laban on Feb 12, 2019 11:29 AM
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Dave Laban wrote:

Happy to be proven wrong but I'd be genuinely surprised if that functionality has been scoped out, approved for prototyping and developed sufficiently far for a presentation video to commit to SW2020 release in the 8 work days since voting ended on the Top Ten List this year (less, given the presentation video pack probably had to be signed off by last week at the absolute latest). I'd still be pretty stunned if they had only started it at the beginning of the voting window and/or idea submission stage.
It is a longer story. We advocated for this for two years, talking to the right people at SW PD and R&D. Still, the votes helped.
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Frederick Law @ Dave Laban on Feb 12, 2019 11:28 AM
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That's probably the followup from 2019 'Graphic Pipeline'.
Doesn't mean users or forum had no influence.
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Dave Laban @ Alin Vargatu on Feb 12, 2019 11:31 AM
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This year's vote probably had very little to do with readiness for presentation at SWW just now though, no? It's a good improvement that's clearly been in gestation for a couple of years, just happened to coincide with a decent vote in the TTL this time around.

Again, happy to be proven wrong, but for a company as large as DS / SW to be able to move so quickly in under a week seems unlikely.
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Frederick Law @ Dave Laban on Feb 12, 2019 11:34 AM
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True. Imagine they have this 'upgrade' done already and just wait for our vote to put it out
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John Stoltzfus @ Frederick Law on Feb 12, 2019 11:36 AM
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Frederick Law - Actually they were waiting till great "Other Software" users come on board here
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Frederick Law @ John Stoltzfus on Feb 12, 2019 11:42 AM
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Yeap, see all the improvements since I joined the forum?
2019 is even usable before SP3.
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Frederick Law @ John Stoltzfus on Feb 12, 2019 11:55 AM
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'Emperor's New Clothes'
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John Stoltzfus @ Frederick Law on Feb 12, 2019 12:05 PM
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LOL - well it's great to have your voice here on the forum, even if I pick on ya....
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Frederick Law @ John Stoltzfus on Feb 12, 2019 12:13 PM
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Someone need to do the dirty job

Now I can put my clothes back on.
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Jim Steinmeyer @ Frederick Law on Feb 12, 2019 2:32 PM
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Frederick Law wrote:

Now I can put my clothes back on.
We appreciate that!
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Frederick Law @ Jim Steinmeyer on Feb 12, 2019 2:36 PM
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Tell my coworkers .....
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Glenn Schroeder @ Alin Vargatu on Feb 12, 2019 2:42 PM
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"...This is huge and it has a nice background story. I will tell it today in the Large Drawings session at #sww19"

Alin Vargatu ,

I'm looking forward to it. See you then.
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Matt Peneguy Feb 12, 2019 5:08 PM
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Alin Vargatu wrote:

I am so happy! SOLIDWORKS R&D listened to us!

Thank you, Matthew Lorono!

Looks like in SW2020 Detached functionality is merged in the standard drawings!!!

Finally we have a drawing environment that is responsive to detailers.

One more note: if you will benefit from this huge enhancement, send a thank you note to our forum colleague, Grant Mattis.

Long story, short, everything started with Grant.
This also had a lot to do with you too, Alin! So thanks to all three of you! This will help me out big time.
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Alin Vargatu @ Dave Laban on Feb 13, 2019 12:21 AM
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Dave Laban wrote:

This year's vote probably had very little to do with readiness for presentation at SWW just now though, no? It's a good improvement that's clearly been in gestation for a couple of years, just happened to coincide with a decent vote in the TTL this time around.

Again, happy to be proven wrong, but for a company as large as DS / SW to be able to move so quickly in under a week seems unlikely.
You are right in the fact that it did not happen overnight.

I am sure there are many unsung heroes. As far as I know everything started with Grant Mattis. After finding and implementing a temporary solution for his team slow experience with large drawings, Grant started an intense brainstorming here:

Drawings Speed (Large Assemblies)

Next, he presented his experience and proposal for a solution at SWW2018 in Los Angeles. Then, the one and only - Mark Johnson made sure that the presentation was delivered again in Waltham last summer and attended by key people in the Drawings PD and R&D. After the second delivery, Grant continued to provide essential information to R&D, who started to work on the solution he suggested.

Lastly, two of the ideas voted in the TTL this year, inspired in good part from the discussions in this forum, describe precisely the enhancement shown today at #sww19:
- Allow any drawing to be loaded with or without the model (user control)
- Multicore Workflow for Large Assemblies and Drawings
Again, this is what I know. As you said, I can be wrong, but I like the story. It is nice.
It shows the value of this forum and how good SW employees are at listening and reacting to the SW Community.
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John Stoltzfus Feb 13, 2019 6:43 AM
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Alin Vargatu - Should Jim Wilkinson get mentioned on this as well, I just know he was active here on the forum, plus he had a voice in the SW headquarters....
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Alin Vargatu @ John Stoltzfus on Feb 13, 2019 7:39 AM
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John Stoltzfus wrote:

Alin Vargatu - Should Jim Wilkinson get mentioned on this as well, I just know he was active here on the forum, plus he had a voice in the SW headquarters....
You just mentioned him.
Jim was/is an outstanding SW Community advocate.
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Jim Wilkinson @ John Stoltzfus on Feb 13, 2019 7:40 AM
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John Stoltzfus wrote:

Alin Vargatu - Should Jim Wilkinson get mentioned on this as well, I just know he was active here on the forum, plus he had a voice in the SW headquarters....
Thanks for thinking of me John, but I had very little to do with this particular set of work. Credit should go squarely where it is deserved.

Thanks,
Jim
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John Stoltzfus @ Jim Wilkinson on Feb 13, 2019 7:43 AM
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Jim Wilkinson - Awesome, just wanted to make sure you weren't forgotten
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Matthew Lorono @ Matt Peneguy on Feb 13, 2019 11:21 AM
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Be sure to try this functionality out in Beta. Early input from customers is very important, particularly for new tools that get you excited when you hear about them at SOLIDWORKS World.
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