I normally use SW2018.
I downloaded SW2019, opened a few assemblies, and then left it alone. Lesson learned... I'll wait until SP1 to actually use it.
An assembly I saved in SW2019 won't open now in SW2018, and I need it to. Is there any way to go back in SW2019 and save it with compatibility with SW2018?
I was under the impression this problem was fixed a few versions ago!
Hi David,
I don't believe you can now revert the SW2019 file back to be able to be used in SW2018 but I've been wrong before....
Without wanting to state the obvious, do you by chance have a copy of the SW2018 file version in your backup folder?
Dave.
1-56LL44R wrote:
Hi David,
I don't believe you can now revert the SW2019 file back to be able to be used in SW2018 but I've been wrong before....
Without wanting to state the obvious, do you by chance have a copy of the SW2018 file version in your backup folder?
Dave.
I appreciate your wink, Dave, but I shouldn't have to rely upon a backup just because software misbehaves on purpose. A better emoji would be a facepalm. This is clearly engineered into Solidworks.
On top of this, SW2018 is now acting up - the hole wizard is screwed up. WTF!
Any idea how I can bring this back?
David Lewis wrote:
1-56LL44R wrote:
Hi David,
I don't believe you can now revert the SW2019 file back to be able to be used in SW2018 but I've been wrong before....
Without wanting to state the obvious, do you by chance have a copy of the SW2018 file version in your backup folder?
Dave.
I appreciate your wink, Dave, but I shouldn't have to rely upon a backup just because software misbehaves on purpose. A better emoji would be a facepalm. This is clearly engineered into Solidworks.
No offense, but you were the one who saved it in a newer version not the software and backups are there to be done for this exact purpose.
On top of this, SW2018 is now acting up - the hole wizard is screwed up. WTF!
Any idea how I can bring this back?
Okay, have you checked that within SW2018 your file locations are looking at the correct locations and not now looking at the new SW2019 files and folders?
Dave.
I don't want to get into a discussion about best practices; I just want to know how I can get back to work. Do you know how to bring it back or not?
Obviously, I don't.
Me either mate..............
You're clearly angry because of the situation you are in and I understand that, but don't take the angst out on me, I'm only try to help where I can..............
Like I said, unless you've got a backup, I don't believe you can get your file back.
As far as SW2018 Hole Wizard issues, did you read my comment above?
"Have you checked that within SW2018 your file locations are looking at the correct locations and not now looking at the new SW2019 files and folders?"
Dave.
Dave is correct. Once you save a file in SW2019 you cannot go back to earlier version (hopefully, as Dave stated, you have your Backup/Recover system settings set so you can get a back up {if you are not using SW PDM}). SW2018 SP5.0 will be able to open the file but in a limited fashion; no modifications allowed.
It sound like you installed SW2019 as a separate version. Go to your C drive you should have two SolidWorks Data folders SolidWorks Data and SolidWorks Data (1). You want to change SW2018 Hole Wizard/Toolbox to look at folder SolidWorks Data.
Please do not bite Dave Bear's head off. SolidWorks does not and may never have any backward compatibility.
With SW2018 SP5 you can open SW2019 files.
However you can see the model, but you not do very much with it.
I never used it, so I do not know if the "old" feature tree is visible.
Hope this can helps David Lewis
1-5P0-427 wrote:
Dave is correct. Once you save a file in SW2019 you cannot go back to earlier version (hopefully, as Dave stated, you have your Backup/Recover system settings set so you can get a back up {if you are not using SW PDM}). SW2018 SP5.0 will be able to open the file but in a limited fashion; no modifications allowed.
It sound like you installed SW2019 as a separate version. Go to your C drive you should have two SolidWorks Data folders SolidWorks Data and SolidWorks Data (1). You want to change SW2018 Hole Wizard/Toolbox to look at folder SolidWorks Data.
Please do not bite Dave Bear's head off. SolidWorks does not and may never have any backward compatibility.
Nobody is biting anyone's head off. I only go on forums when I have questions, and I only want answers. Lectures are unnecessary.
I asked about the Toolbox not only because it is a royal PIA, but because these folders are MIA. I can't find the "SolidWorks Data" folder that is supposedly the culprit.
I will try SP5. Thanks for the suggestion.
Yes, as stated, in the last sentence of the first paragraph in my reply.
"Lectures" as you call them are sometimes necessary to give you enough background information about the why SolidWorks works the way it does (I could write more but then I would be lecturing) If anyone were to just answer the only question in your original post the answer would be "no".
For your question about the database file location. Since I do not know the install folders of SW2018 and SW2019 on your computer. Go to Tools>Options>System Options>Hole Wizard/Toolbox and look at the folder listed under Hole Wizard and Toolbox folder. What does yours show?
Example: My screen shot shows where the HoleWizard database file is in my SW2018 install, if I wanted to set it to my SW2017 install I would browse out to folder C:\SOLIDWORKS Data (5)\. I would hope your system is set up similar to mine (although some users set where the install directories are when doing multi SW version installs)?
David Lewis wrote:
I normally use SW2018.
I downloaded SW2019, opened a few assemblies, and then left it alone. Lesson learned... I'll wait until SP1 to actually use it.
An assembly I saved in SW2019 won't open now in SW2018, and I need it to. Is there any way to go back in SW2019 and save it with compatibility with SW2018?
I was under the impression this problem was fixed a few versions ago!
SWX is not backwards compatible. Don't hold your breath waiting for it nor waste your breath demanding it. Not going to happen. The ONLY option you have to use your 2019 files in an earlier version is to open them using SP5.0 of SWX2018 or to save them out from 2019 as a neutral file format (Parasolid is the best since that is SWX' modeling kernel). What was achieved a few years ago, that you must be referring to, is the ability to use the SP5.0 of the previous release to open the newer version files, but this really is still just accessing the files as a neutral format, i.e., the SP5.0 sees the part only as a dumb solid.
Thanks for the frank reply. Message received. Dassault is not Microsoft, who figured out long ago how dumb this practice was.
In case anyone was wondering, 100% of the work of producing the assembly I am talking about was conducted in SW2018. I simply opened it once in SW2019, and I guess I must have changed something (I think I copied a part in the assembly) because when I closed it, it asked me to save. If I could undo that save, everything would be fine. I get it Dave Bear, a backup would also solve this, but again, this is an engineered problem. I should not have to!
I am working on an extracurricular collaborative project where everybody else is in Fusion 360. I hate sketching in Fusion, so I decided to use Solidworks (I am a machinist at a carbon fiber bicycle company) for the components I am contributing, and the IGES file I'll upload to Fusion for the assembly doesn't need to have any particular parametric data included. In fact, the parts have already been manufactured - by me.
All I want from the file I accidentally saved in SW2019 is one single sketch. It has a TON of sketch relations that would be a PIA to reproduce. I already exported the extrusion as a solid and did a convert entities of the face with the sketch I need, so I can reproduce the part, but that's not the point.
Also, if SW2019 didn't crash after three minutes EVERY TIME I OPEN IT, and steal my Hole Wizard Toolbox from SW2018, I would just use it and forget about SW2018.
If it is crashing three minutes after opening it then I would recommend repair or re-install. And it did not steal your Hole Wizard/Toolbox; you just missed the part where is asked you if it could when you installed SW2019.
I done this in the past. The best way I sorted it out was to restore the file to the previous version.
R/H on the file in question & select 'Restore Previous Versions' It should show you the file prior to when it was saved.
I did not know this feature existed in Windows!
Unfortunately:
Either way, thanks Chris! This is the answer I was looking for.
David Lewis wrote:
I did not know this feature existed in Windows!
Unfortunately:
Either way, thanks Chris! This is the answer I was looking for.
How can this be the answer you are looking for if it doesn't work?
This is just misguiding the people that might read this post in the future..........
Dave.
This Does actually work Dave.
Just tested, made part in 2015, saved in 2019 and added a feature.
restored previous version and was able to reopen in 2015 without new feature added.
2019 ver
back 2 2015 ver
Does go back a fair way but not sure how well it would remember 6 months ago?
Unfortunately, if you move/copy or rename the file you lose the ability to restore a previous version.
Same as David Lewis, I never knew about this ability. We are stuck on SW2015 so we don't have a version change issue and when we finalize a part or drawing we put it in a vault - so we have "valid" previous versions
- but I have a few times been working on a part (over a few days) and later realize I made a change I didn't want part way through the process (or if the computer or SW Crashes while working on the part) and can't backup to before that point easily, so I dump the file and start over with the last vault saved file.
With this I may be able to backup part way into the changes I have recently made (or to the last save before a crash) (like the way I saved it the night before) and pickup from there.
This can save a lot of time and effort.
Thanks for the tip. I will have to see how it works on my next mess-up.
I know this is an old thread, but:
I see nobody here posted about the backworks add in.
http://www.backworks.info/buy-backworks.php
"LIMITED OFFER: BACKWORKS costs €300. This price includes 1 licence plus 1 year Subscription."
So the question is, did your next version save mistake lose your access to more than $300 worth of work?
Alternatively:
"By default, the evaluation license is valid for 30 days, starting from the activation date, or for 20 files to convert. Functionality of the evaluation version is not restricted by any means and you can download it for free".
So, were more than 20 unique files converted?
The lack of backwards compatibility means that beta testers can only play about and not get stuck into any "real work" on the future version. In fact the first betas of the next year version may not even have file compatibility with the next beta or SP0 version. This doesnt help anyone make sure that SP0 of the latest version is stable without any job stopping issues. It also makes SP0 a risky move for early adopters. In fact many have a policy of never going to the latest version before SP2, but obviously if everyone did that then SP2 might be as iffy as SP0...
The explanation is that backwards compatibility is a CAD developers straight jacket.
So much functionality is added each version that there would be a myriad of features in each part created in the latest version that couldn't be represented in the previous version.
Can anyone actually say that sentence with a straight face?
It only work with part files.
This is a Windows thing and must be setup to work this way. Unless your IT has it set up, you won't see anything.
See below:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2974385/how-to-use-windows-10s-file-history-backup-feature.html
Around October last year, a windows 10 update was deleting everyone's files, and had to be pulled.
That was all caused by a bug in this file history backup system!
I done this in the past. The best way I sorted it out was to restore the file to the previous version.
R/H on the file in question & select 'Restore Previous Versions' It should show you the file prior to when it was saved.