I may be losing my mind. I've been back and forth with our Solidworks Support provider trying to figure this one out. This is what I'm almost certain I have been able to do for ages now. Insert a Geo-tolerance onto a diameter dimension as shown in the first screenshot below.
now all i can get is this:
or this:
Am I losing my mind?
I photoshopped the first image
the geotolerance initially places on the dimension as intended, where before you would just simply move the dimension text to get your extension lines trimmed off the geotolerance, but now soon as you click to move it throws the geotolerance outside (as seen in 2nd screen-shot)
ok.
Anthony Macke wrote:
I photoshopped the first image
Why do you want the dimension INSIDE the part? Not pretty. Whenever possible (which is almost always) I like to have dimensions outside of the part. Maybe someone will disagree, but drawings look way better if the dimensions are outside the part. then the part stands out and the dimensions are easier to find and read.
Yes, you are correct, dimensions on the outside of the part are preferred over dimensions on top of the part.
There are instances where putting the diameter dimension inside the diameter may be necessary.
If my drawing view was just a circle as shown in my examples, yes, I would put the dimensions on the outside, the examples were just thrown together as examples to show the dimensions behavior.
My original post wasn't questioning drafting practices.
Dan Golthing wrote:
Why do you want the dimension INSIDE the part? Not pretty. Whenever possible (which is almost always) I like to have dimensions outside of the part. Maybe someone will disagree, but drawings look way better if the dimensions are outside the part. then the part stands out and the dimensions are easier to find and read.
Who cares about it being pretty when it is a definition? If it's a hole it's common practice to have dim's in the hole.
It's a standard or usually unacceptable to not have dimensions inside the model geometry, however, for his intent that would likely be a call-out for the inner diameter of a feature - which is common.
You could cheat it and switch it to a linear dimension, and then hide the witness lines....but I'm guessing there is something in the Drafting Standard file that is overriding the placement. Might have to look further into the ANSI standard.
JM
Hmm, that was the first thing I tried, but it disconnected from the dimension. I'll have to try that again. It was on just a sketch circle I drew, not an actual view.
JM
John Matrishon wrote:
Hmm, that was the first thing I tried, but it disconnected from the dimension.
If you try to drag the GTOL symbol, then yes it may get disconnected
Deepak, I normally set it to no leader before placing it on the dimension. If I set it to no leader, then place it on the dimension, then click the geotolerance and set it to no leader again, it just disconnects the geotolerance from the dimension
EDIT: Deepak, your screenshot is EXACTLY what I was positive used to be doable yet I am not longer able to accomplish.
Anthony Macke wrote:
Deepak, your screenshot is EXACTLY what I was positive used to be doable yet I am not longer able to accomplish.
Well it is not working for me now, not sure how it worked for me earlier
I don't think it really did Deepak, when you first go to place the geotol it shows connected in the middle, then hops to the outside once placed. I think the placement was just a leftover location...but it does show the dim gap on your image, so that part is puzzling.
I do have agree with others about dimension inside the object lines, I always try to avoid that as well.
JM
John Matrishon wrote:
I don't think it really did Deepak, when you first go to place the geotol it shows connected in the middle, then hops to the outside once placed. I think the placement was just a leftover location...but it does show the dim gap on your image, so that part is puzzling.
I do have agree with others about dimension inside the object lines, I always try to avoid that as well.
JM
This may be SW "helping" us with our drafting etiquette, but a linear dim w/GTOL can be dragged within and the GTOL doesn't pop out.
Kevin
John Matrishon wrote:
I don't think it really did Deepak, when you first go to place the geotol it shows connected in the middle, then hops to the outside once placed. I think the placement was just a leftover location...but it does show the dim gap on your image, so that part is puzzling.
It did worked for me hen I took that screen shot as I was able to move the GTOL with the dimension. Not sure what additional I did in addition to setting no leader.
Anyways per S-059671, the behavior we all are getting is intended.
Deepak Gupta wrote:
Anthony, select the GTOL symbol and set it to no leader
I set the GTOL to no leader but as soon as I drag it onto the dia dim and it associates to the dim, the GTOL locates itself as shown (and it's still set to no leader?) SW2018 sp2
Kevin
Well it is not working for me now as well . I've tried on 2017, 2018 and 2019
I make every effort to dim outside the part. I will make room as needed so not to dim inside, it's more clear.
Dumb question, How'd you make the first image?
I've observed the same and look forward to an answer from SW.