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Hole Wizard oddity - M13 Shoulder screw counterbore??

Question asked by Andy Sanders on Jul 13, 2018
Latest reply on Jul 13, 2018 by Danny Edwards

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I had a user attempt to use the Hole Wizard to put a M12 Shoulder screw counterbore into a part. Myself, I've never used the HW for this type of hole.

But the user didn't find M12. He found M13! Near as I can tell, there's no such thing as a M13 Shoulder screw. Not even on McMaster Carr!

I dug around online and couldn't find any readily available data for this type of C'bore. I'm suspicious all the data is correct for a M12, but someone at SW fat-fingered a 13.

Can anyone else confirm this error in the HW data, and possibly help me out with what the data should be for a M12 shoulder screw counterbore hole??

EDIT: I'm using 2018 SP3

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Danny Edwards Jul 13, 2018 1:52 PM

Mine shows the same for a Shoulder screw also as you see on yours. I am using SW2017 sp5. The socket head cap screw has m12. Will have to dig a bit to see what the proper sizing for a m12 shoulder screw would be.

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Andy Sanders @ Danny Edwards on Jul 13, 2018 1:59 PM

I usually don't use the HW for shoulder screws. They're kind of a special case where you may or may not need a certain fit. So I usually cut these with drilled holes and such. Not like a socket head cap screw where the holes are pretty standard.

But I don't think SW should get away with putting an non-existent size in the data.

Thank you for verifying that my data wasn't unique.

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Danny Edwards @ Andy Sanders on Jul 13, 2018 2:03 PM

Here is the screen shot of my HW also

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Danny Edwards Jul 13, 2018 1:52 PM
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Mine shows the same for a Shoulder screw also as you see on yours. I am using SW2017 sp5. The socket head cap screw has m12. Will have to dig a bit to see what the proper sizing for a m12 shoulder screw would be.
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- Andy Sanders @ Danny Edwards on Jul 13, 2018 1:59 PM
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  I usually don't use the HW for shoulder screws. They're kind of a special case where you may or may not need a certain fit. So I usually cut these with drilled holes and such. Not like a socket head cap screw where the holes are pretty standard.
  
  But I don't think SW should get away with putting an non-existent size in the data.
  
  Thank you for verifying that my data wasn't unique.
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  - Danny Edwards @ Andy Sanders on Jul 13, 2018 2:03 PM
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    Here is the screen shot of my HW also
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