Dimension A is easy enough to foreshorten but I can't get Dimension B. I tried getting dimension on main view and holding shift to drag it to the detail (another thread) and it won't work properly because it's for the o-ring cutout rather than the outermost dimension. Thanks.
Right click on the top extension line and select Hide. Do the same thing for the dimension line above your dimension text.
Didn't work. It's hiding the bottom one first which I want to keep. And that's clicking directly on the top one. Selecting Hide on the dimension line is just hiding the entire dimension.
I think this is getting off topic. I was looking to make dimension B look like dimension A... not completely delete the lines, just foreshorten them.
Just tried everything in those two threads. Drag and drop dimension, enlarging detail then shortening. The problem I'm seeing is the dim that is shortened has the option Display Option ---> Foreshorten whereas the other dimension does not. I think it's because it's not the outermost dimension. Since it's a groove set back from the leftmost surface it's not presenting the option. Glitch in the matrix I guess. It looked like someone did it in one of those threads. I can't figure out how. It really doesn't matter too much. Somehow this drawing got released the way it is before I ever touched it.
I could certainly be wrong, but I think you aren't getting the option to Foreshorten in that instance because that dimension is between two parallel edges. The one where you are getting the option is the length of a single edge.
Raymond,
I have one more thing for you to try. At least it worked for me. With the Smart Dimension tool active, click on the edge in your Detail View, then click on the appropriate edge in the parent view. When I did that the dimension came in already Foreshortened as shown below.
Still didn't work. And still didn't have the option to foreshorten under Display Option. The dimension was placed on the Detail, just not shortened. Maybe there's something in settings I can check out.
Can you upload your part and drawing?
I tried something else just to check. I reproduced the dimension that was foreshortened by clicking the long side for the DIA dimension and it allowed me to foreshorten again. Then I made the same dimension by expanding the detail and obtaining by clicking the top and bottom edges which did NOT let me foreshorten. Since the dimension I'm trying to get is a groove (without a long edge to grab) I have to select top and bottom edges and don't think this is possible to foreshorten. Also, I did try expanding the view and adding a centerline to see if it would foreshorten but it wouldn't because it was a driven dimension. Maybe I'll put a .0001 cut through the diameter from the side to have a factory edge to grab... if it ever becomes an issue. It'll look like garbage but I think it'll work.
Figured out a way finally. Per Jim Sculley's request I began to make an example part and drawing. As I stated before, clicking top and bottom edges wouldn't produce a foreshortened dimension. The dimension that did shorten was produced by clicking the length of the diameter. One of my habits when setting up a drawing view is to first make sure it has 'Tangent Edges With Font' selected. The original drawing did not have this selected. When I made that active I got a vertical phantom line from the fillet. Dimensioning that line did allow the dim to be shortened.
Raymond Diangelo wrote:
Figured out a way finally. Per Jim Sculley's request I began to make an example part and drawing. As I stated before, clicking top and bottom edges wouldn't produce a foreshortened dimension. The dimension that did shorten was produced by clicking the length of the diameter. One of my habits when setting up a drawing view is to first make sure it has 'Tangent Edges With Font' selected. The original drawing did not have this selected. When I made that active I got a vertical phantom line from the fillet. Dimensioning that line did allow the dim to be shortened.
If you can upload the part/drawing that *doesn't* work the way you think it should, please do. I just created a simple part/drawing and did not have to select a tangent edge to make it work. I picked the top and bottom silhouette edges. Then I CTRL-dragged the dimension to the detail view.
Files are attached to original post.
Raymond,
I opened your files and used the same procedure I described a couple hours ago. I deleted the dimension you had inserted from the tangent line, activated the Smart Dimension tool, and clicked on the two parallel edges shown below (clicking on the one in the Detail View first). As you can see, it worked fine. I don't know why it doesn't work for you if you did the same thing.
I tried it your way on this example part drawing and it worked. I tried it again on the original drawing and it still didn't work. I'm not sure why but the guy who originally did the drawing wasn't at my job long and almost every single part and drawing he's done has had to be redone. It was like he tried to sabotage them. Who knows what happened.
Raymond Diangelo wrote:
I tried it your way on this example part drawing and it worked. I tried it again on the original drawing and it still didn't work. I'm not sure why but the guy who originally did the drawing wasn't at my job long and almost every single part and drawing he's done has had to be redone. It was like he tried to sabotage them. Who knows what happened.
I can understand that. I got real busy last fall and one of our engineers had his student workers do some modeling and drawings for a couple of his projects. Cleaning those up has been a nightmare.
Hi Glenn Schroeder ,
As many users, I'm also struggling with foreshortened dimensions.
I have opened your files, and it works fine just as you described. You use ANSI-modified and IPS settings.
The problem is that your method does not work on my files (SW2018 SP 0.1, Drawing standard; ISO, Units; MMGS).
Drawing template = default SW template.
Since foreshortened dims often gives me problems, I developed a workaround. It works also with dims to virtual points..
The workaround is based on enlarging the circle on the (sliced) section view A-A, so the dims can be applied in the detail view-D.
After that, hide the extension lines and the dimension lines on the left side of the dims. Than shrink the circle of the detail view-D.
The diameter symbol for the dim on the virtual point has to be applied manually.
The workaround provides a different arrow format than the "Display Options => Foreshorten" command (double sided arrowhead).
Maybe it is a known bug in the version and settings I use. Anyway, this workaround seems to work in cases where other methods doesn't.
Maybe you want to try your method on my files ?
Raymond,
I opened your files and used the same procedure I described a couple hours ago. I deleted the dimension you had inserted from the tangent line, activated the Smart Dimension tool, and clicked on the two parallel edges shown below (clicking on the one in the Detail View first). As you can see, it worked fine. I don't know why it doesn't work for you if you did the same thing.