I just installed 2018 SP2.0 and, as is usual (during all installs), I was asked if I wanted to see What's New PDF.
Is the What's New revised or updated for each Service Pack?
Is there a separate document for What's New SP2.0?
I just installed 2018 SP2.0 and, as is usual (during all installs), I was asked if I wanted to see What's New PDF.
Is the What's New revised or updated for each Service Pack?
Is there a separate document for What's New SP2.0?
I'm not sure if they update "What's new" with every SP but you can go here to read what they've done with each one.
Hope this helps!
I don't think they totally revamp it. The release notes will let you know what's "fixed".
But they're not adding anything new into the fold after the major release. They edit the text.
From 0.0 (I believe
From 2.0
Tony Tieuli wrote:
I'm not sure if they update "What's new" with every SP but you can go here to read what they've done with each one.
Hope this helps!
That (Release notes) is a link to this...
So I click on this...
And get a page that looks like a notebook trying to cover all things...
Pictures. I need pretty pretty pictures.
And stay on topic. What's new in SP2.0. Nothing else please.
Yes I know this is an Administrators guide and it is absolutely perfect in that role.
What brought my question up was Jim Wilkinson going above and beyond the call and updating many multiple forum threads with solutions implemented in SP2.0. Very appreciated Jim. Thank you.
I was hoping to get a comprehensive list of all the fixes and improvements.
No pretty pictures.
What cracked me up was when you click on this:
It sends you right back to the Administration Guide!
Tony Tieuli wrote:
What cracked me up was when you click on this:
It sends you right back to the Administration Guide!
That is because it is a simple HTML document...if you don't have internet access, it is going to open up the same file locally instead of on the web. It doesn't actually know if you are looking at the latest one; you could be looking at a copy of the document from any release and any service pack.
Thanks,
Jim
Rick Becker wrote:
So I click on this...
And get a page that looks like a notebook trying to cover all things...
Pictures. I need pretty pretty pictures.
And stay on topic. What's new in SP2.0. Nothing else please.
Yes I know this is an Administrators guide and it is absolutely perfect in that role.
The release notes are to call attention to important things about the entire major release of the software (2018 in this case) and also to document any functional/UI changes introduced in each service pack. The service pack changes are listed under a couple of places: the Service Pack 2.0 link near the top of the document will bring you to the section for the changes in the core product.
The different links just below that labelled "SOLIDWORKS Products" will bring you to release notes for each individual "companion" product to SOLIDWORKS and each of those sections may have notes for individual service packs.
There are also separate release notes documents on the administration page for PDM and eDrawings because those are products that non-SOLIDWORKS users may use.
The release notes are intentionally relatively short and just text since *most* changes don't need pictures to understand the change. However, if more information is needed, the release note will refer to a help topic in the regular help system that can have more in depth information and pictures. In most case, we are not making major changes to the user interface or functionality that needs a lot of explanation; it's usually bug fixes, but sometimes bug fixes require UI changes.
The link near the top of the release notes that says "For a list of fixed SPRs, click here." will bring you to the listing of bugs that have been fixed. These are not embedded in the release notes since it is a database driven, dynamic list so we don't want to embed it in a "static" document.
For your comment: "And stay on topic. What's new in SP2.0. Nothing else please."
I guess what you are asking for is a separate document for SP2.0 with just those changes. If we did that it would be an extremely small document and then we'd have 6 of those each for core, PDM, and eDrawings (for SP0 through SP05) for users to have to review. We have many users that skip service packs so the current format is easy to review to see all the changes for each SP so if they jump from SP0 to SP4.0 for instance, they can just read through the 4 service pack sections for core SOLIDWORKS to see what changed (and then look at the additional product release notes for changes there if they use any additional products).
There are probably 10 different ways we could slice and dice this information and present it. Some ways more optimal than others depending on our particular upgrade path. So, any input on pros/cons of the current method is appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Wilkinson wrote:
...For your comment: "And stay on topic. What's new in SP2.0. Nothing else please."
I guess what you are asking for is a separate document for SP2.0 with just those changes. If we did that it would be an extremely small document and then we'd have 6 of those each for core, PDM, and eDrawings (for SP0 through SP05) for users to have to review. We have many users that skip service packs so the current format is easy to review to see all the changes for each SP so if they jump from SP0 to SP4.0 for instance, they can just read through the 4 service pack sections for core SOLIDWORKS to see what changed (and then look at the additional product release notes for changes there if they use any additional products).
There are probably 10 different ways we could slice and dice this information and present it. Some ways more optimal than others depending on our particular upgrade path. So, any input on pros/cons of the current method is appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim
How I imagine it could work is this...
Add an appendix page to the What's New pdf. for each SP.
Five appendix pages of short documents listing what is fixed/tweeked/added. expanding the What's new document.
Thanks for your input Jim. It helps us to understand what's under the hood.
Questions! Questions! Questions! It's always questions with you!
(Sorry. I just had a flashback to my grade school days.)
Rick Becker wrote:
I just installed 2018 SP2.0 and, as is usual (during all installs), I was asked if I wanted to see What's New PDF.
Is the What's New revised or updated for each Service Pack?
Is there a separate document for What's New SP2.0?
Hi Rick,
The What's New may be updated with minor changes/corrections, but it is not usually specific to the service pack, it is for the entire major release. We may put in changes that are specific to the SP like the change to Manage as Craig mentions. To see any functional changes from one SP to the next refer to the Release Notes as Tony mentions.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Wilkinson wrote:
Rick Becker wrote:
I just installed 2018 SP2.0 and, as is usual (during all installs), I was asked if I wanted to see What's New PDF.
Is the What's New revised or updated for each Service Pack?
Is there a separate document for What's New SP2.0?
Hi Rick,
The What's New may be updated with minor changes/corrections, but it is not specific to the service pack, it is for the entire major release. To see any functional changes from one SP to the next refer to the Release Notes as Tony mentions.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim, for what it's worth, the list of fixed SPR's for SP2.0 is not on the secure area of the website yet, though it does have the list for SP2 EV. Are those the same? I would expect that the intent is for EV to make it to full release, but that is why it is EV in the first place, as the last chance to make changes.
Dennis Dohogne wrote:
Jim, for what it's worth, the list of fixed SPR's for SP2.0 is not on the secure area of the website yet, though it does have the list for SP2 EV. Are those the same? I would expect that the intent is for EV to make it to full release, but that is why it is EV in the first place, as the last chance to make changes.
Usually the list does not change from an EV to the main service pack; if nothing critical is found during EV, then it just becomes the main service pack with no new SPRs to list.
I pinged technical support and they are working to get the list updated ASAP, hopefully later today.
Thanks,
Jim
I'm just trying to figure out if I want to install SP2 for 2018. I'm sorry but this conversation is not helping much.
I clicked a link above and got a link to Software Performance Reports (SPRs).
Not at all what I wanted to see.
Thanks for trying just the same...
Jerry, what link did you click on?
If it was this... Fixed SPR list
I got this page first...
And, after clicking on Accept Agreement & Continue I got to this...
Is this the page you are looking for?
That is not the page I wanted. Rick Becker
I wanted to know what is new in 2018 SP2 - to decide if I wanted to bother with the upgrade. And yes, you can install it and find 'What's New' but that's kinda backwards in the decision process.
Oh, and I was also looking for how to upload an enhancement request. But I eventually did find that. You know ER, SPn, SPR - these can be confusing.
Search results like this do not help either:
thx
The release notes are to call attention to important things about the entire major release of the software (2018 in this case) and also to document any functional/UI changes introduced in each service pack. The service pack changes are listed under a couple of places: the Service Pack 2.0 link near the top of the document will bring you to the section for the changes in the core product.
The different links just below that labelled "SOLIDWORKS Products" will bring you to release notes for each individual "companion" product to SOLIDWORKS and each of those sections may have notes for individual service packs.
There are also separate release notes documents on the administration page for PDM and eDrawings because those are products that non-SOLIDWORKS users may use.
The release notes are intentionally relatively short and just text since *most* changes don't need pictures to understand the change. However, if more information is needed, the release note will refer to a help topic in the regular help system that can have more in depth information and pictures. In most case, we are not making major changes to the user interface or functionality that needs a lot of explanation; it's usually bug fixes, but sometimes bug fixes require UI changes.
The link near the top of the release notes that says "For a list of fixed SPRs, click here." will bring you to the listing of bugs that have been fixed. These are not embedded in the release notes since it is a database driven, dynamic list so we don't want to embed it in a "static" document.
For your comment: "And stay on topic. What's new in SP2.0. Nothing else please."
I guess what you are asking for is a separate document for SP2.0 with just those changes. If we did that it would be an extremely small document and then we'd have 6 of those each for core, PDM, and eDrawings (for SP0 through SP05) for users to have to review. We have many users that skip service packs so the current format is easy to review to see all the changes for each SP so if they jump from SP0 to SP4.0 for instance, they can just read through the 4 service pack sections for core SOLIDWORKS to see what changed (and then look at the additional product release notes for changes there if they use any additional products).
There are probably 10 different ways we could slice and dice this information and present it. Some ways more optimal than others depending on our particular upgrade path. So, any input on pros/cons of the current method is appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim