I have an assembly of which i have made a mirror. I have made some changes and am now attempting to move some of the parts on the model but I am unable to move a part of the first model. as shown below the part is shown as fully constrained, no ( - ) mark, but there are no mates. How is this possible, and How do I move it? Any mates I add show overdefined.
If you right click on the part, does it show up as "Fixed"?
(Or do you have the option to "Float" the part?)
Todd Blacksher wrote:
If you right click on the part, does it show up as "Fixed"?
(Or do you have the option to "Float" the part?)
When I right click I have the option to fix but not to float, so from that I assume it is not fixed.
Jim Steinmeyer wrote:
Todd Blacksher wrote:
If you right click on the part, does it show up as "Fixed"?
(Or do you have the option to "Float" the part?)
When I right click I have the option to fix but not to float, so from that I assume it is not fixed.
That would be my assumption as well - I went with Occam's razor first, so now the chase is on . . .
I would say to start with Dan's suggestions, and I'll do some more brainstorming.
I have run into this from time to time.
Questions:
1) Are there any external references in this part (back to the assembly)?
2) Have you tried a CTRL Q to see if it updates it back to undefined?
3) Have you tried removing the part and re-inserting it?
Dan Pihlaja wrote:
I have run into this from time to time.
Questions:
1) Are there any external references in this part (back to the assembly)?
2) Have you tried a CTRL Q to see if it updates it back to undefined?
3) Have you tried removing the part and re-inserting it?
This might lead me to something. Thinking now I might have been in the next higher assembly when I mirrored the top level and now in the next level of assemblies down I have problems. However I am able to move and remate all of the other parts of this assembly that I have tried, just not this one.
It is not showing any external references and not only have I rebuilt but closed and reopened.
Just going to say, this is another example I don't like to mirror anything. Build it right the first time. It is nice to have the right hand version follow the left automatically when it works. But I usually spend more time fixing mirrors than I save by not building from scratch.
aww... got to read it.
this is the mirrored assembly? That there lies the problem you need to go to the original and make your changes. that or break the link to the mirror. go back and check the mirror options so that you can free up this assembly and be able to make changes if you do not want to change the original.
David, I am working on the original. The colored assembly is the original and the part with the arrow is what I am attempting to move.
IMNSHO mirror=bad.
Have you tried suppressing the mirror to see if that fixes it? I mirror often in assemblies and don't have problems with it, but I don't know what else to suggest.
This appears to have resolved the issue. While the part still showed that it was fully constrained even without and mates or being fixed; I was able to place new mates after suppressing the mirror feature.
Thank you
Hi Jim,
Be careful not to mate to the mirror components. That can happen from time to time. SW will let you mate other components to mirror feature components but it can cause issues.
Elmar
Elmar,
Good advice. As i keep digging here I am seeing that with the original assembly suppressed I must have fixed some of the mirrored components. I did this 3 months and 4 hurried projects ago so i don't really remember what I did. Then when I attempted to unsuppress and move the original assembly today the fixed mirrored component was causing the problem. Just when you think you have part of a feature figured out you learn that you really have no clue.
Jim,
Can you please elaborate on "I have an assembly of which i have made a mirror."?
Hi Jim,
Try to move the model next to the Feature_Manager before you take a snap shot. And include the feature manager in your picture.
Makes it much easier to understand what you are looking at. If your feature manager tree is very long, take two snap shots. One showing the top level and the other one the area of concern.
´That will get you answers quicker.
Elmar
Have you tried suppressing the mirror to see if that fixes it? I mirror often in assemblies and don't have problems with it, but I don't know what else to suggest.