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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Todd Blacksher Feb 27, 2018 8:59 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)If you right click on the part, does it show up as "Fixed"?
(Or do you have the option to "Float" the part?)
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Jim Steinmeyer Feb 27, 2018 9:34 AM (in response to Todd Blacksher)Todd Blacksher wrote:
If you right click on the part, does it show up as "Fixed"?
(Or do you have the option to "Float" the part?)
When I right click I have the option to fix but not to float, so from that I assume it is not fixed.
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Todd Blacksher Feb 27, 2018 9:38 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)Jim Steinmeyer wrote:
Todd Blacksher wrote:
If you right click on the part, does it show up as "Fixed"?
(Or do you have the option to "Float" the part?)
When I right click I have the option to fix but not to float, so from that I assume it is not fixed.
That would be my assumption as well - I went with Occam's razor first, so now the chase is on . . .
I would say to start with Dan's suggestions, and I'll do some more brainstorming.
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Dan Pihlaja Feb 27, 2018 9:07 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)I have run into this from time to time.
Questions:
1) Are there any external references in this part (back to the assembly)?
2) Have you tried a CTRL Q to see if it updates it back to undefined?
3) Have you tried removing the part and re-inserting it?
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Jim Steinmeyer Feb 27, 2018 9:41 AM (in response to Dan Pihlaja)Dan Pihlaja wrote:
I have run into this from time to time.
Questions:
1) Are there any external references in this part (back to the assembly)?
2) Have you tried a CTRL Q to see if it updates it back to undefined?
3) Have you tried removing the part and re-inserting it?
This might lead me to something. Thinking now I might have been in the next higher assembly when I mirrored the top level and now in the next level of assemblies down I have problems. However I am able to move and remate all of the other parts of this assembly that I have tried, just not this one.
It is not showing any external references and not only have I rebuilt but closed and reopened.
Just going to say, this is another example I don't like to mirror anything. Build it right the first time. It is nice to have the right hand version follow the left automatically when it works. But I usually spend more time fixing mirrors than I save by not building from scratch.
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
David Matula Feb 27, 2018 9:33 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)aww... got to read it.
this is the mirrored assembly? That there lies the problem you need to go to the original and make your changes. that or break the link to the mirror. go back and check the mirror options so that you can free up this assembly and be able to make changes if you do not want to change the original.
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Jim Steinmeyer Feb 27, 2018 9:44 AM (in response to David Matula)-
Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Glenn Schroeder Feb 27, 2018 9:50 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)Have you tried suppressing the mirror to see if that fixes it? I mirror often in assemblies and don't have problems with it, but I don't know what else to suggest.
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Jim Steinmeyer Feb 27, 2018 10:05 AM (in response to Glenn Schroeder)This appears to have resolved the issue. While the part still showed that it was fully constrained even without and mates or being fixed; I was able to place new mates after suppressing the mirror feature.
Thank you
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Elmar Klammer Feb 27, 2018 10:21 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)Hi Jim,
Be careful not to mate to the mirror components. That can happen from time to time. SW will let you mate other components to mirror feature components but it can cause issues.
Elmar
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Jim Steinmeyer Feb 27, 2018 10:43 AM (in response to Elmar Klammer)Elmar,
Good advice. As i keep digging here I am seeing that with the original assembly suppressed I must have fixed some of the mirrored components. I did this 3 months and 4 hurried projects ago so i don't really remember what I did. Then when I attempted to unsuppress and move the original assembly today the fixed mirrored component was causing the problem. Just when you think you have part of a feature figured out you learn that you really have no clue.
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Glenn Schroeder Feb 27, 2018 9:40 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)Jim,
Can you please elaborate on "I have an assembly of which i have made a mirror."?
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Re: No mates but still fully defined? How is this possible?
Elmar Klammer Feb 27, 2018 10:01 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)Hi Jim,
Try to move the model next to the Feature_Manager before you take a snap shot. And include the feature manager in your picture.
Makes it much easier to understand what you are looking at. If your feature manager tree is very long, take two snap shots. One showing the top level and the other one the area of concern.
´That will get you answers quicker.
Elmar