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How can i disable an suppress equation in a certain configuration?

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I have an assembly model with multiple configurations. I use equations to suppress some parts according to a defined conditions.How can i disable an equation in a certain configuration?

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In order to clarify my question I attach a simple example. In this example I have an assembly model with two parts (Base, Wall) and two configurations (AllPart, BaseOnly). I have also two additional instances of part (Wall).

In the first configuration (Allpart) I want to control the visibility of the Wall<2> and Wall<3> according to the width of the base and in the second configuration (BaseOnly) I want to suppress only the Walls, That's all.

Elmar Klammer Feb 14, 2018 7:28 AM

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One way to do it, add a second variable and use nested iif statement. That is in essence what I explained to do earlier.

Now it doesn't suppress the equations but it does what you want in the scenario described.

Activator is 1 in AllParts and 0 in OnlyBase. The WallTest is suppressed when ever Activator is 0.

"Activator" = 0

"Wall^Test<2>.Part" = IIF ( "Activator" = 0 , IIF ( "Base_width" < 1000 , "suppressed" , "unsuppressed" ) , "suppressed" )

"Wall^Test<3>.Part" = IIF ( "Activator" = 0 , IIF ( "Base_width" < 1500 , "suppressed" , "unsuppressed" ) , "suppressed" )

Elmar

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Jason Martin Feb 12, 2018 9:52 AM

If i'm not mistaken, the equation would only work for the configuration that is loaded. Meaning that the assembly/part wouldn't update until the specified configuration is selected.

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Ayman Alshehabi @ Jason Martin on Feb 12, 2018 9:55 AM

No, It is not like that. The equation works with all configurations and I want to make it work with only specified configurations

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Jason Martin Feb 12, 2018 10:17 AM

I browsed through the forums and found this: Configurable equations in Assembly

I hope it helps!

The thread has a link to a blog that might help you.

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Ayman Alshehabi @ Jason Martin on Feb 13, 2018 4:36 PM

Hello Janson,

Thank you för the länken. My question is not the same question that is discussed in the forum. I still did not get the correct answer.

in order to clarify my question I attached a simple example (assembly file).

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Elmar Klammer Feb 12, 2018 10:22 AM

Hi Ayman,

Ayman Alshehabi wrote:

I use equations to suppress some parts according to a defined conditions.

You use something along the line.

"part<1>" = iif (Condition, "suppressed" , "unsuppressed")

Ayman Alshehabi wrote:

How can i disable an equation in a certain configuration?

You merely suppress or un-suppress. Enabling/disabling a "suppress-state equation" is the same as having an equation control the status in all configurations. Why use two different approaches to do the same thing?

Elmar

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Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 13, 2018 4:49 PM

Hello Elmar,

I don't try to do the same thing by two different ways. I attached a simple example to clarify my question.

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Elmar Klammer Feb 14, 2018 2:54 AM

Hi Ayman,

Your question is still not quite clear to me. Your base-only configuration. What condition drives that setting?

In other words when do you want to show the base only.

You are aware that you can specify the configuration in which an equation is active? Clicking in the equation cell should give you a configuration flyout?

Elmar

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Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 14, 2018 4:15 AM

Hi Elmar,

The Base only configuration is to be used in a drawing file.

My drawing file has two sheets. The first one linked with the Allpart configuration and the second linked with base only.

In the equation manager I tried to apply my equations on only the first configuration but it didn't work and that is the problem I am taking bout.

I hope it is clear now

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Elmar Klammer @ Ayman Alshehabi on Feb 14, 2018 6:14 AM

Hi Ayman,

This is how I interpret you info.

A) You have an assembly that has various wall options depending on the base plate size

B) You Control the walls layout as per base plate size

C) For a given assembly layout you want to a drawing that shows

a) The assembly it self on sheet 1 (showing base plate & all walls)

b) The base plate only on sheet 2 as per the assembly size (say your base plate is 1500 mm wide & has say 3 wall, then you want to show the 1500mm wide base plate by itself.

Is that right?

Elmar

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Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 14, 2018 6:48 AM

Exactly, this is what I want to do.

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Elmar Klammer @ Ayman Alshehabi on Feb 14, 2018 7:28 AM

One way to do it, add a second variable and use nested iif statement. That is in essence what I explained to do earlier.

Now it doesn't suppress the equations but it does what you want in the scenario described.

Activator is 1 in AllParts and 0 in OnlyBase. The WallTest is suppressed when ever Activator is 0.

"Activator" = 0

"Wall^Test<2>.Part" = IIF ( "Activator" = 0 , IIF ( "Base_width" < 1000 , "suppressed" , "unsuppressed" ) , "suppressed" )

"Wall^Test<3>.Part" = IIF ( "Activator" = 0 , IIF ( "Base_width" < 1500 , "suppressed" , "unsuppressed" ) , "suppressed" )

Elmar

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Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 14, 2018 7:39 AM

An excellent idea. It is worked very well.

Thank you very much

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Jason Martin Feb 12, 2018 9:52 AM
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If i'm not mistaken, the equation would only work for the configuration that is loaded. Meaning that the assembly/part wouldn't update until the specified configuration is selected.
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- Ayman Alshehabi @ Jason Martin on Feb 12, 2018 9:55 AM
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  No, It is not like that. The equation works with all configurations and I want to make it work with only specified configurations
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Jason Martin Feb 12, 2018 10:17 AM
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I browsed through the forums and found this: Configurable equations in Assembly

I hope it helps!
The thread has a link to a blog that might help you.
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- Ayman Alshehabi @ Jason Martin on Feb 13, 2018 4:36 PM
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  Hello Janson,
  
  Thank you för the länken. My question is not the same question that is discussed in the forum. I still did not get the correct answer.
  in order to clarify my question I attached a simple example (assembly file).
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Elmar Klammer Feb 12, 2018 10:22 AM
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Hi Ayman,

Ayman Alshehabi wrote:

I use equations to suppress some parts according to a defined conditions.
You use something along the line.
"part<1>" = iif (Condition, "suppressed" , "unsuppressed")
Ayman Alshehabi wrote:

How can i disable an equation in a certain configuration?

You merely suppress or un-suppress. Enabling/disabling a "suppress-state equation" is the same as having an equation control the status in all configurations. Why use two different approaches to do the same thing?

Elmar
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- Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 13, 2018 4:49 PM
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  Hello Elmar,
  
  I don't try to do the same thing by two different ways. I attached a simple example to clarify my question.
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Elmar Klammer Feb 14, 2018 2:54 AM
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Hi Ayman,

Your question is still not quite clear to me. Your base-only configuration. What condition drives that setting?
In other words when do you want to show the base only.

You are aware that you can specify the configuration in which an equation is active? Clicking in the equation cell should give you a configuration flyout?

Elmar
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- Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 14, 2018 4:15 AM
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  Hi Elmar,
  
  The Base only configuration is to be used in a drawing file.
  My drawing file has two sheets. The first one linked with the Allpart configuration and the second linked with base only.
  
  In the equation manager I tried to apply my equations on only the first configuration but it didn't work and that is the problem I am taking bout.
  
  I hope it is clear now
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  - Elmar Klammer @ Ayman Alshehabi on Feb 14, 2018 6:14 AM
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    Hi Ayman,
    
    This is how I interpret you info.
    A) You have an assembly that has various wall options depending on the base plate size
    B) You Control the walls layout as per base plate size
    C) For a given assembly layout you want to a drawing that shows
    a) The assembly it self on sheet 1 (showing base plate & all walls)
    b) The base plate only on sheet 2 as per the assembly size (say your base plate is 1500 mm wide & has say 3 wall, then you want to show the 1500mm wide base plate by itself.
    
    Is that right?
    
    Elmar
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    - Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 14, 2018 6:48 AM
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      Exactly, this is what I want to do.
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      - Elmar Klammer @ Ayman Alshehabi on Feb 14, 2018 7:28 AM
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        One way to do it, add a second variable and use nested iif statement. That is in essence what I explained to do earlier.
        Now it doesn't suppress the equations but it does what you want in the scenario described.
        
        Activator is 1 in AllParts and 0 in OnlyBase. The WallTest is suppressed when ever Activator is 0.
        
        "Activator" = 0
        "Wall^Test<2>.Part" = IIF ( "Activator" = 0 , IIF ( "Base_width" < 1000 , "suppressed" , "unsuppressed" ) , "suppressed" )
        "Wall^Test<3>.Part" = IIF ( "Activator" = 0 , IIF ( "Base_width" < 1500 , "suppressed" , "unsuppressed" ) , "suppressed" )
        
        Elmar
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        Ayman Alshehabi @ Elmar Klammer on Feb 14, 2018 7:39 AM
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        An excellent idea. It is worked very well.
        
        Thank you very much
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