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Question asked by John Wayman on Feb 9, 2018
Latest reply on Feb 6, 2020 by Calib Willis

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I am just starting to look at DimXpert, as a way to reduce the time taken and nausea induced by having to create 2D drawings.

I created a simple part (attached) created DimXpert annotations and made a drawing of it (also attached).

I dragged the first view with an (A) from the view palette and the DimXpert dimensions showed.

The DimXpert dimensions refused to show if I created a projection view from the view on the sheet, but if I dragged a view (with an (A)) from the view palette and aligned it to the first view, they did show on the second view, but not on a third.

I have attached screen grabs of the annotated part and of the drawing. In the drawing, there are two identical views at the top of the sheet. The lowest is a projection view from the main view, the upper is a view marked (A) dragged from the view palette.

What am I doing wrong that means the 9 dimension and the 2 X R1 dimension do not show on any view?

SW 2017, SP5

Windows 10 Pro

Nvidia Quadro K2200 with the recommended driver

Thanks,

John

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John Wayman Feb 9, 2018 11:07 AM

I've been continuing to mess with Dim Xpert.

I have reached the conclusion that it doesn't actually seem to work.

There are dimensions that it doesn't create, but doesn't mention it can't (or didn't bother to) create them.

There are dimensions that make no sense, like a dimension to the edge of a cut that is labelled '2 X 50', where it should be 50.

Then, sometimes they will show up and other times they just won't, even in the part, never mind in the drawing.

I think enough time has been expended flogging this particular moribund equine.

Unless you know differently...

John

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S. Casale Apr 4, 2018 12:11 PM

Yours may be a bug...

I've noticed Dimxpert is troubled in another way as well. Maybe it's me or is there no way to add angular dimensions to patterned holes about a bolt circle?

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S. Casale @ S. Casale on Apr 4, 2018 12:30 PM

DimXpert is currently without the ability to Standard dimension process of parts in a pattern about a diameter or radius or bolt circle.

Can't use TolAnalyst accurately without it.

See the SPR's all requesting about the same thing?

Please Vote for 951470, 1074875, 1015750. There's even an SPR (which is unnmbered here) that says trhis was fixed in 2010 - it is not.

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Dan Pihlaja Apr 4, 2018 12:15 PM

Another option is to use your actual geometry dimensions. These you can pull in using Insert --> Model Items.

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Calib Willis Feb 6, 2020 1:21 PM

You must create a new annotation view within the DimXpert Manager feature tree and assign what dim you want on that view.

Right Click [A] Annotations folder, below the part scheme

Insert Annotation View

Select what view you want to add then accept it. For example, I created a annotation view for the bottom of the part.

Then, RIGHT CLICK ON THE DIM. YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THAT VIEW

GO DOWN TO SELECTED ENTITIES

PICK A THE VIEW FOR THAT ANNOTATION TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH.

The view palette in the drawing will update with a (A) next to it. means that there are annotations in that view

(make sure SHOW DIMXPERT ANNOTATIONS IS TURNED ON, under the annotations folder in the Feature Manager Tree)

But I had trouble with the drawing updating the changes. Clicking rebuild didn't do anything

I had to delete all my views and refresh the view palette. Then place/project my views again.

You also cannot edit the dimensions or tolerance at the drawing level. You have to go back to the model to correct them.

I found it easier to use my dimensions from my sketch level, add the tolerances to them.

Then I was able to use import design annotations to bring them into the drawing.

This also allows you to edit the dimension on the drawing and it will update the model too.

Hope this helps!

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John Wayman Feb 9, 2018 11:07 AM
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I've been continuing to mess with Dim Xpert.
I have reached the conclusion that it doesn't actually seem to work.
There are dimensions that it doesn't create, but doesn't mention it can't (or didn't bother to) create them.
There are dimensions that make no sense, like a dimension to the edge of a cut that is labelled '2 X 50', where it should be 50.
Then, sometimes they will show up and other times they just won't, even in the part, never mind in the drawing.

I think enough time has been expended flogging this particular moribund equine.

Unless you know differently...

John
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S. Casale Apr 4, 2018 12:11 PM
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Yours may be a bug...

I've noticed Dimxpert is troubled in another way as well. Maybe it's me or is there no way to add angular dimensions to patterned holes about a bolt circle?
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- S. Casale @ S. Casale on Apr 4, 2018 12:30 PM
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  DimXpert is currently without the ability to Standard dimension process of parts in a pattern about a diameter or radius or bolt circle.
  
  Can't use TolAnalyst accurately without it.
  
  See the SPR's all requesting about the same thing?
  Please Vote for 951470, 1074875, 1015750. There's even an SPR (which is unnmbered here) that says trhis was fixed in 2010 - it is not.
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Dan Pihlaja Apr 4, 2018 12:15 PM
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Another option is to use your actual geometry dimensions. These you can pull in using Insert --> Model Items.
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Calib Willis Feb 6, 2020 1:21 PM
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You must create a new annotation view within the DimXpert Manager feature tree and assign what dim you want on that view.

Right Click [A] Annotations folder, below the part scheme
Insert Annotation View
Select what view you want to add then accept it. For example, I created a annotation view for the bottom of the part.

Then, RIGHT CLICK ON THE DIM. YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THAT VIEW
GO DOWN TO SELECTED ENTITIES
PICK A THE VIEW FOR THAT ANNOTATION TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH.

The view palette in the drawing will update with a (A) next to it. means that there are annotations in that view
(make sure SHOW DIMXPERT ANNOTATIONS IS TURNED ON, under the annotations folder in the Feature Manager Tree)

But I had trouble with the drawing updating the changes. Clicking rebuild didn't do anything

I had to delete all my views and refresh the view palette. Then place/project my views again.

You also cannot edit the dimensions or tolerance at the drawing level. You have to go back to the model to correct them.

I found it easier to use my dimensions from my sketch level, add the tolerances to them.

Then I was able to use import design annotations to bring them into the drawing.

This also allows you to edit the dimension on the drawing and it will update the model too.

Hope this helps!
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