Drawing Layout
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to do a detail drawing of a layout, but everytime i try to use a depth section view the result "hides" some parts. I'll attach some pictures to help the understanding.
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Re: Drawing Layout
Hi, thanks for your answer.
I've tried that but it just won't show the lower parts of the layout, just showing the roof
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Did you receive the error message that SW can`t do section properly?
Check section scope tab
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When i tried to change it from partial to full section i got this error, but the fun thing is that this part is actually the "floor" of my layout which is not what is hidden in the section.
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To speed up of search of problem bodies you can use section tool in assembly (not in drawing).
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I just don't get what you mean. I don't believe the error is in my assembly, i think there's something about the drawing. I can show everything in the section perfectly, but when i try to use the depth it just hides everything lower than the roof
Showing everything, even lower than the roof
When i try to use the depth function it just hides everything. Even though it clearly should be showing as you can see in the depth line.
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Unfortunately, no. But indeed there was a error in the sketch.
And i'm sorry but i really need to use the depth function in this case, i can't show only one line of the entire row of equipments without the depth funcion. Take a look. It is a really big project.
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OK, as I understood you don`t understand me when I wrote about creating of section in assemly.
So, to find out what bodies cause the error I suggested to make the same section in assembly file.
Now, about section depth, as workaround you can create display state special for this section. In this display state you hide all bodies behind your depth line.
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Oh, sorry, i didn't understand that you were talking about doing the section in the assembly. I'll try it
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I managed to make the same section i want to show in the drawing in the assembly, created two sections faced to each other to create the "depth" effect, but how can i show it in the drawing? When i drag the view and the display state to the sheet the assembly is complete, no section
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I can't hide some things because stuff like the floor/walls or the roof are just one big extrusion, and i need to show them in the section
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So, basically, i'll have to hide every body i don't want to show everytime i want to make a section view? It's not that viable isn't it
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No, it is only a workaround for your specific situation.
You must try to find body or bodies which causes an error. Try to exclude some bodies, try to change section plane, try to delete some assembly components to understand what SW needs to create right section for you.
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Okay, so, sorry if i'm doing something wrong but, as i understood:
Make the section in the assembly, and make a display state for this section
Now i drag this display state to my drawing and hide the bodies i don't want to show in the drawing sheet?
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No, display state is display state, section view is section view.
I wrote about section view because it is a fast preliminary way to find out some problems with sectioning of your assembly in drawing.
You lost a lot of time in your drawing if will try to find problem bodies in it.
Now about display state: if you don`t find problem bodies you must create display state in assembly and use it for section view without depth option.
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Only if you don`t have more time to play with SW.
If you have time try to find problem bodies
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If i have time, to find problem bodies i just need to keep trying, hiding, deleting and testing until i manage to discover which one of them is causing the error?
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Hiding doesn`t help you, suppressing or deleting only.
Try to make section in other place, try to rotate section plane slightly
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Hi Mario,
Your question is more about how to detail structural buildings. Not so much SW. Anyways.
This is a large layout. You will need to add grid references or no-one will be able to work efficiently with your drawings. Not sure if you have experience with build suite layout and field work.
In case you want to stick with your approach, then I would suggest you first align your views. It seems like you are connecting two buildings that are at some angle to each other. Align the top first since the connecting bridge is parallel. Then I would go back into your assembly and add a plan view sketch. Add the section lines in there. The top brown is vertical, the bottom brown is parallel to the lower building. That way you get true projections that can be read easily. Anything else is a nightmare to dimension & use in the field. Make the asm sketch visible and convert the brown sketch line into the drawing. Select your depth by clicking a point on the green asm sketch line. Now you can control sections in the asm itself. Aligning the view will minimize the issue of singularities that might cause SW to error out. Try this and see if it works.
All in all I would recommend you reconsider your approach to detailing like that. You will get a lot of questions and have a hard time building according to your drawings, not to mention checking your dimensions. Check out some structural drawing samples on google to get an idea of industry standard. Bear in mind people need to be able to read the paper drawing. Orientation of views should be such that the user can look at a view in such way that it represents the physical position best. In your case section view itself should be rotated to sit horizontal just like your bridge does.
Elmar
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Hi Elmar, thank you for your answer.
That's exactly what i was trying to explain earlier, the buildings weren't built aligned. that's why my drawings aren't aligned too. I have to represent exactly what they already have in order to show how what we are making is making sense. As for the dimensions, we drew it exactly like the Civil 2d plant we received.
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Hi, thanks for your answer.
I can't do that, since the information i need to show is only viewable in that side of the section
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Do not use depth feature in section. It slices out the section.
Create new plane or line in drawing > then project section view
See in image: section-B at depth hides the background lines. whereas section-C is new drawn at location is perfect.
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Hi, thanks for your answer.
The thing is that i'm not trying to show a section of a part, i'm trying to show just a section from a very big layout. There's lots of equipments there, and i'm trying to show how only one line of them looks, therefore i need the section with depth, otherwise it will show my whole layout which is not alligned and will look very messy (The two locations we have to show aren't alligned).
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you can Edit the Section line Sketch to align with any of the parts in assembly. then it will look clean.
The ex. part in image shows the depth section will slice the view so you will not be able to see anything behind section line.
notice the added extrusion in image
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