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Set subassembly weight in assembly level.

Question asked by Jim Steinmeyer on Jan 2, 2018
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We manufacture large feeder mixers for feeding cattle in our shop. In the design process we will use the overall shell as a reference part to assemble many subassembly components to. As we now have been requested to include the weight of our assemblies I am attempting to figure out how to exclude the reference items from the assembly weight. A quick and easy way to do that is to use envelopes but that has it's own set of things to work around. I have seen reference to setting the weight of the reference items to 0 at the assembly level but have not been able to figure out how that is done. We have a custom property called weight set to be equal to the mass. In the reference item I have created a configuration and set both the mass and weight to 0 for the configuration but that does not work. My google fu is not strong today, can someone point me to who to set the subassembly weight at the assembly level so it doesn't mess with the actual sub weight?

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Elmar Klammer Jan 2, 2018 11:55 AM

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Hi Jim,

Enter 0 in the override mass option. Then Add a configuration specific property and select SW-Mass...from the drop down box.

Now your sub asm will list with zero weight in the BOM.

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Elmar Klammer Jan 2, 2018 11:55 AM

Hi Jim,

Enter 0 in the override mass option. Then Add a configuration specific property and select SW-Mass...from the drop down box.

Now your sub asm will list with zero weight in the BOM.

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Jim Steinmeyer @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 12:17 PM

Thank you Elmar, that was what I was looking for.

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Elmar Klammer @ Jim Steinmeyer on Jan 2, 2018 12:26 PM

Hi Jim,

I used to work for your competition..Loewenwelding in Canada...remember the horizontal feed mixer well.

They look almost the same.

Elmar

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Jim Steinmeyer @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 12:47 PM

Elmar Klammer wrote:

Hi Jim,

I used to work for your competition..Loewenwelding in Canada...remember the horizontal feed mixer well.
They look almost the same.

Elmar

Most of the year I would probably prefer the weather up there. My wife not so much, she is liking the absence of snow down south.

I am having a hard time with the popularity of the verticals, When I had my dairy I was more concerned about the mix.

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Elmar Klammer @ Jim Steinmeyer on Jan 2, 2018 1:14 PM

Hi Jim,

That all depends. Are you going up north, north west or north east......You'd have to stay mostly west to like the temperatures....not so sure about the whether...Pacific sunshine is mostly rainy.

Elmar

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Jim Steinmeyer @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 2:03 PM

Elmar Klammer wrote:

Hi Jim,

That all depends. Are you going up north, north west or north east......You'd have to stay mostly west to like the temperatures....not so sure about the whether...Pacific sunshine is mostly rainy.

Elmar

I'm from the Dakotas, the heat down here in southern Kansas is killing me.

I've been in Winnipeg during the winter and it was pretty nice. Then I drove the Al-Can to Anchorage early November and came back in February. My kind of weather

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John Stoltzfus Jan 2, 2018 12:04 PM

I've always used Air as the material for any reference parts....

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Elmar Klammer @ John Stoltzfus on Jan 2, 2018 12:18 PM

Hi,

I think he wants to set the assembly weight (can't set material for assemblies).

Elmar

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John Stoltzfus @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 12:30 PM

Understand clearly what he needs.... I just hate overrides - too many chances for error -

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Jim Steinmeyer @ John Stoltzfus on Jan 2, 2018 12:44 PM

John Stoltzfus wrote:

Understand clearly what he needs.... I just hate overrides - too many chances for error -

I also hate giving more chances for error because if there is a chance, I will make it. However in this case i am not sure if there would be any difference between having the shell property set to air when used as a reference or steel when used as a sub and doing the over ride for a configuration named "reference".

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Kevin Chandler Jan 2, 2018 12:14 PM

Hello,

I created a custom material, which can't be zero density, but its "Mass density" is set to the max decimal places out before the one.

You can add a configuration for your reference and assign the nothing material.

Then choose the nothing mass config in your assembly.

Cheers,

Kevin

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John Stoltzfus @ Kevin Chandler on Jan 2, 2018 12:31 PM

Kevin Chandler wrote:

Hello,

I created a custom material, which can't be zero density, but its "Mass density" is set to the max decimal places out before the one.
You can add a configuration for your reference and assign the nothing material.
Then choose the nothing mass config in your assembly.

Cheers,

Kevin

That's another great way

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Elmar Klammer Jan 2, 2018 11:55 AM
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Hi Jim,

Enter 0 in the override mass option. Then Add a configuration specific property and select SW-Mass...from the drop down box.
Now your sub asm will list with zero weight in the BOM.
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- Jim Steinmeyer @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 12:17 PM
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  Thank you Elmar, that was what I was looking for.
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  - Elmar Klammer @ Jim Steinmeyer on Jan 2, 2018 12:26 PM
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    Hi Jim,
    
    I used to work for your competition..Loewenwelding in Canada...remember the horizontal feed mixer well.
    They look almost the same.
    
    Elmar
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    - Jim Steinmeyer @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 12:47 PM
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      Elmar Klammer wrote:
      
      Hi Jim,
      
      I used to work for your competition..Loewenwelding in Canada...remember the horizontal feed mixer well.
      They look almost the same.
      
      Elmar
      
      Most of the year I would probably prefer the weather up there. My wife not so much, she is liking the absence of snow down south.
      I am having a hard time with the popularity of the verticals, When I had my dairy I was more concerned about the mix.
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      - Elmar Klammer @ Jim Steinmeyer on Jan 2, 2018 1:14 PM
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        Hi Jim,
        
        That all depends. Are you going up north, north west or north east......You'd have to stay mostly west to like the temperatures....not so sure about the whether...Pacific sunshine is mostly rainy.
        
        Elmar
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        Jim Steinmeyer @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 2:03 PM
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        Elmar Klammer wrote:
        
        Hi Jim,
        
        That all depends. Are you going up north, north west or north east......You'd have to stay mostly west to like the temperatures....not so sure about the whether...Pacific sunshine is mostly rainy.
        
        Elmar
        
        I'm from the Dakotas, the heat down here in southern Kansas is killing me.
        I've been in Winnipeg during the winter and it was pretty nice. Then I drove the Al-Can to Anchorage early November and came back in February. My kind of weather
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John Stoltzfus Jan 2, 2018 12:04 PM
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I've always used Air as the material for any reference parts....
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- Elmar Klammer @ John Stoltzfus on Jan 2, 2018 12:18 PM
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  Hi,
  
  I think he wants to set the assembly weight (can't set material for assemblies).
  
  Elmar
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  - John Stoltzfus @ Elmar Klammer on Jan 2, 2018 12:30 PM
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    Understand clearly what he needs.... I just hate overrides - too many chances for error -
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    - Jim Steinmeyer @ John Stoltzfus on Jan 2, 2018 12:44 PM
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      John Stoltzfus wrote:
      
      Understand clearly what he needs.... I just hate overrides - too many chances for error -
      I also hate giving more chances for error because if there is a chance, I will make it. However in this case i am not sure if there would be any difference between having the shell property set to air when used as a reference or steel when used as a sub and doing the over ride for a configuration named "reference".
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Kevin Chandler Jan 2, 2018 12:14 PM
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Hello,

I created a custom material, which can't be zero density, but its "Mass density" is set to the max decimal places out before the one.
You can add a configuration for your reference and assign the nothing material.
Then choose the nothing mass config in your assembly.

Cheers,

Kevin
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- John Stoltzfus @ Kevin Chandler on Jan 2, 2018 12:31 PM
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  Kevin Chandler wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I created a custom material, which can't be zero density, but its "Mass density" is set to the max decimal places out before the one.
  You can add a configuration for your reference and assign the nothing material.
  Then choose the nothing mass config in your assembly.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Kevin
  That's another great way
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