20 Replies Latest reply on Nov 20, 2017 4:29 PM by Jeremy Kepley

Lines showing as dotted/hidden in drawings

Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 3:09 PM

I opened the drawing attached to this assembly and it came up with an odd issue. The lines in the attachment that appear to be hidden lines shouldn't be that way. When I open the subassembly that contains just the tank weldment, there aren't any issues. Hidden lines are, of course, removed; all other display styles seem to work fine. It doesn't appear to be showing the hidden lines, its just converting the standard lines into that format. Has anyone else encountered this problem?

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Re: Lines showing as dotted/hidden in drawings

Glenn Schroeder Nov 16, 2017 3:22 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)

In the Drawing, right-click on the Part that's showing the dotted lines, either in the graphics area or in the tree, and choose "Component Line Font..." from the drop-down. It looks like someone over-rode the line type there. Selecting "Default" at the top should bring it back to solid.
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  Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 3:48 PM (in response to Glenn Schroeder)
  
  I looked through the design tree on about a half dozen of the parts in the views that they are affected, and they all seem to have their line fonts set to the default.
  
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    Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 3:49 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)
    
    *I also checked the assemblies
    
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Re: Lines showing as dotted/hidden in drawings

Tom Gagnon Nov 16, 2017 3:22 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)

Are your tangent edges in those views shown "Tangent Edges with Font" or Visible or Removed?
It looks like what you get when Tangent Edges with Font.

Otherwise, I'd have to suggest something odd with layers and linetype included therein.
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  Glenn Schroeder Nov 16, 2017 3:25 PM (in response to Tom Gagnon)
  
  Tom,
  
  I hate to disagree with you, but even the outside edges are showing as dotted, so there's something going on other than tangent edges (though that might be part of the issue).
  
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    Tom Gagnon Nov 16, 2017 3:48 PM (in response to Glenn Schroeder)
    
    That's ok. I welcome disagreement.
    Without file, it's hard to diagnose. I've seen similar artifacts from TEwF on views. I've also seen wrong weights on same, as shown in image it appears they are heavy lines, not greyed weight. This could also be generated by several nearby lines visibly merging into a fat line in image. I'll repeat. Without file, it's hard to diagnose.
    It's the Boundary dash-dot-dot linetype that threw me off.
    
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  Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 3:51 PM (in response to Tom Gagnon)
  
  Tangent edges are set to "visible." None of the settings for the tangent edges seem to make a difference to the parts that are affected.
  
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Jim Steinmeyer Nov 16, 2017 3:36 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)

Nice trailer. You are going to put a DEF tank on there too aren't you?

Sorry I can't help you with the lines, I think Glenn has the answer as I have had the same type of problem.
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  Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 3:55 PM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)
  
  Thanks, my boss likes it! And yes, we have 50 gallon and 100 gallon DEF tank options! If you're in the market check out our website, www.sutterbuttesmfg.com. (I promise I'll stop advertising haha)
  
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    Jim Steinmeyer Nov 16, 2017 4:01 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)
    
    I drew up the first fuel tanks for a previous employer made about 6 years ago, but the boss kept changing everything as soon as the print hit the floor. Very frustrating.
    
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      Jeremy Kepley Nov 20, 2017 4:29 PM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)
      
      Ah, that was before Solidworks had the "mindreader" function. It's still a little buggy now, but very useful.
      
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Re: Lines showing as dotted/hidden in drawings

Dennis Bacon Nov 16, 2017 3:49 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)

Since you mentioned that you "opened" the drawing I'm wondering did you do the drawing yourself?.. Perhaps someone purposely changed the component line font or put that component on a different layer that uses that line font. Right click on the part and see what the component line font is and what layer it is using.
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  Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 3:56 PM (in response to Dennis Bacon)
  
  It does the same thing if I start a new drawing. I did delete the default configuration when I was working on it earlier, and I received a notice saying that the drawing was going to reference my last opened configuration. It has to be something to do with that, but I can't figure out exactly where it is.
  
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Tom Gagnon Nov 16, 2017 4:02 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)

Does destroying layers destroy objects on that layer, or strip those objects of its layer properties and leave them on None?
I'm shooting in the dark here.
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  Tom Gagnon Nov 16, 2017 4:23 PM (in response to Tom Gagnon)
  
  While I'm stabbing in the dark, Is your video card driver version supported and certified?
  Run Solidworks RX and check Diagnostics tab.
  
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Re: Lines showing as dotted/hidden in drawings

Jim Steinmeyer Nov 16, 2017 4:10 PM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)

Jeremy Here is a link to my thread when I was having similar problems, I don't think your issue is quite the same as the parts show in some of the views but there might be some ideas for you.

https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/203824
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  Jeremy Kepley Nov 16, 2017 4:21 PM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)
  
  You might be on to something. This is the first assembly that I started using envelope parts and the parts that I'm having issues with are the ones that have an envelope part in a subassembly.
  
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  Jeremy Kepley Nov 20, 2017 10:32 AM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)
  
  So if I change the parts I have as envelopes I can solve my problem. I followed the steps listed in the other thread but it didn't change anything on my drawings. I'd really love to be able to keep the parts as envelopes; besides the issues with the drawings the feature is very helpful.
  
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    Jim Steinmeyer Nov 20, 2017 11:07 AM (in response to Jeremy Kepley)
    
    Can you have two configurations, one for modeling with envelopes on and one for drawings with envelopes off but selected for exclude from BOM?
    
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      Jeremy Kepley Nov 20, 2017 4:27 PM (in response to Jim Steinmeyer)
      
      That sounds possible but it wouldn't really follow how we handle configurations at the shop I work for. I ended up taking all of the parts out of envelope and just doing a hide/exclude from BOM. I don't like how it's difficult to determine where the dependencies are and the other problems that come along with doing it this way but it'll have to work for now. If I find a solution I'll definitely post it here.
      
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