16 Replies Latest reply on Nov 9, 2017 9:39 AM by Redecos Technologies Branched from an earlier discussion.

    Custom Hole Callout on Drawings

    Robert Pliskat

      I'm not familiar with the advanced hole tool but I was curious if their is a way in any version, older or upcoming that allows you to attached predefined text call outs to a hole? I.E. favorite holes with hole call outs attached from a pre-defined list. I've been having to edit the hole tables extensively for years to make them more toolmaker "friendly" and it takes a lot of time to do this. Before SW, I was using Acad with an 3rd party program called Diemaker. There was a way to pre-write the text for all of your holes and you could quickly attach them when inserting the holes. When you extracted into a hole table, it used the pre written text. In 2001 I provided SW with a set of my tool drawings as an example of this. It went from the VAR to North American corporate. Didn't hear anything for months. When I questioned how it was going, SW's reply was that it was sent to the main corp in France. A year later they replied that it could not be done. I stopped using SW and stuck with Acad & diemaker till 2007 for that reason alone. I obviously have returned but here we are 17 yrs later and still have the same issue. Is there anything that can be done to help with this issue? The hole tables are a real PIA for my line of work.

      Thank you

        • Re: Custom Hole Callout on Drawings
          Jim Wilkinson

          Robert Pliskat wrote:

           

          I'm not familiar with the advanced hole tool but I was curious if their is a way in any version, older or upcoming that allows you to attached predefined text call outs to a hole? I.E. favorite holes with hole call outs attached from a pre-defined list. I've been having to edit the hole tables extensively for years to make them more toolmaker "friendly" and it takes a lot of time to do this. Before SW, I was using Acad with an 3rd party program called Diemaker. There was a way to pre-write the text for all of your holes and you could quickly attach them when inserting the holes. When you extracted into a hole table, it used the pre written text. In 2001 I provided SW with a set of my tool drawings as an example of this. It went from the VAR to North American corporate. Didn't hear anything for months. When I questioned how it was going, SW's reply was that it was sent to the main corp in France. A year later they replied that it could not be done. I stopped using SW and stuck with Acad & diemaker till 2007 for that reason alone. I obviously have returned but here we are 17 yrs later and still have the same issue. Is there anything that can be done to help with this issue? The hole tables are a real PIA for my line of work.

          Thank you

          Hi Robert,

           

          I highly recommend you post this as a new thread in the Drawings and Detailing section. It will just get lost here and users and employees following that are would much better be able to review and comment.

           

          Thanks,

          Jim

            • Re: Custom Hole Callout on Drawings
              Robert Pliskat

              Thanks Jim, Maybe I will. I want to check out the links from Scott first, maybe it's all good in 2018?????

              Thank you

                • Re: Custom Hole Callout on Drawings
                  Robert Pliskat

                  Hi Scott

                       I checked out the links. It just reverses or adjusts the ORDER of the same stuff SW puts out. As an example, for a lifter hole:

                  SW version:

                  .3752 dia. thru

                  My version:

                  .375 SF thru-lifter

                  The difference being a toolmaker ( or apprentice) would look at the SW version and think it needs to be accurately sized and positioned causing him to send it to wire edm. My version lets him know its just for a lifter. He would then drill and ream it oversized to get a slip fit. Huge difference in construction cost from one process to another, not to mention tieing up an already busy $200,000 machine for no reason.

                  I think Jim is right, I'll repost in the other area. I just noticed the advanced hole comments and immediately this subject came to mind. Don't mean to derail from 1 & 2.