21 Replies Latest reply on Feb 22, 2018 4:44 PM by Donna Waters

    Titan Computer... any opinions?

    Jonathan Wilkof

      My philosophy has been buy the best computer with room for upgrades and keep it for a long time.  I currently run a Dell T5400 with Dual Xeon Quad cores at 2.5 Ghz that is now 10 years old and showing it's age.  I do quite a bit with Solidworks, but also many other apps at the same time (ERP system, SQL DB work, MS Office, etc).

       

      Looking for the next great thing.  I've been looking at Boxx, Xi, and recently found Titan Workstation.  Titan seems to have the highest performance with costs 10-15% lower than the others.  I'm not considering Dell, HP, etc, because they really aren't pushing the boundaries like the other guys.  I've read reviews on this forum and people seem to really like Boxx.  Anyone have experience with Titan?  I'm going nuts over the x299 Vulcan 10!

       

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          Ronnie Hiles

          Great philosophy for sure.  The new Intel processors are definitely screamers.  Upgrade to a Quadro card and you have a nice SW machine.  If you want it be really fast ditch that SATA SSD and go for the Samsung Pro M.2 SSD (the motherboard can support 2 of them if you are greedy like me and want to run your models on a SSD, its been shown to give an additional 12% increase in performance.)  Those drives have crazy good benchmarks.  They are literally 6 times the speed of that SATA drive.  The CPU will definitely keep up with multitasking.  There is a lot of room for expansion in that thing too. 

            • Re: Titan Computer... any opinions?
              Tom Helsley

              Ronnie Hiles wrote:

               

              ...if you are greedy like me and want to run your models on a SSD, its been shown to give an additional 12% increase in performance.)

              It's not greedy, it's the smart thing to do.  TIME = MONEY.  I totally agree with getting an M.2 PCIe mounted SSD like BOXX is offering as an option.  I've found that the single largest performance enhancer is FAST storage.  I've upgraded old laggard computers that had conventional 7200 RPM HDs in them to SSDs and seen them perform more like a "new" machine.

               

              Of course, clock speed is still king in the SolidWorks world.  I'd get it as fast as I can.  Four cores is all that is necessary for a CAD workstation.  If you're also running server software (ERP, SQL database on it, etc.) then maybe more cores would help, but it would be better to run them on another machine instead of your CAD workstation.

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              Alex Taguchi

              Check out Puget Systems. They do their homework on hardware an specific apps and have experience with SOLIDWORKS, https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Is-CPU-Overclocking-in-Solidworks-2017-worth-it-i7-7700K-885/

              • Re: Titan Computer... any opinions?
                Donna Waters

                Good question!  I bought a high-end workstation from Titan 5 days ago.  A couple of days later, I called them, because I hadn't yet received an email confirmation.  No one answered, so I left a voicemail, requesting confirmation.  Still haven't heard anything, but now I do see that the charge went though. There wasn't as much pre-sale support as I expected, either.  They made a couple of recommendations, but without any explanation.  I'll update in a few weeks on the machine and support.

                 

                Incidentally, when the i9 processors were first released, I ordered a gaming machine from Cyberpower PC and UPS "lost" it.  The claim was approved, so I asked Cyberpower to just send a replacement.  Months went by and finally, I had to get my credit card company to reverse the charge.  So, be careful trying to save money on a souped-up machine. 

                 

                I also considered the Vulcan.  Both Titan and Puget steered me away from overclocking and liquid cooling.  The Puget rep said they don't bother, because they don't believe there's enough headroom on the newer processors to make it worthwhile and they like the Noctua fans.  In fact, they said the Noctua fans are quieter than LC.

                 

                Hope this helps someone!

                 

                Donna

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                  Igor Fomenko

                  My opinion: Don't waste money for nothing, replace CPUs to more fast if it is still possible for this motherboard, if you have enougth memory and disk space, SSD doesn't make you more fast, SSD give you only fast system start and loading of model, not more.

                  You have good chances to upgrade your computer https://www.delidded.com/list-of-intel-lga-771-xeon-processors/

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                      Jacob Corder

                      SSD is all around faster. System start is a small benefit.  It is the second most critical thing in a cad workstation in my opinion, a close second to clock speed due to regenration. Make sure if you do get an m.2 SSD. That it's a PCI-E Version. The m.2 drives make everything faster. There is nearly no system.io wait time. And solidworks is huge in system.io useage

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                      Maha Nadarasa

                      If you are looking for the next great thing you have to wait for a while. HP has invented a new computer which is 8000 time faster than the existing computer.

                       

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                      • Re: Titan Computer... any opinions?
                        Donna Waters

                        Also, from the Titan website, "Our Vulcan 10 runs this 10-core monster at 4.7Ghz all day, every day."  I thought it was possible to dynamically overclock, so it speeds up only when you need it, but this sounds static to me.  Titan didn't reply to my question about this.  I imagine wasted power, reduced lifetime, and constant cooling noise.  Hopefully, we'll hear from someone who has one of these machines.

                        • Re: Titan Computer... any opinions?
                          Donna Waters

                          I just received my Titan x299 today and I'm pretty disappointed with the noise level in idle.  It's not overclocked and I even set the chassis fans to "silent", but they are still too loud for an office, IMO.  This is with the standard Cougar Panzer Pro chassis fans and ASRock motherboard fan control. 

                           

                          When I asked about noise level up front, the Titan rep said "I know for a fact the cougar chassis is one of the quietest we offer and the motherboard offers different fan levels for your case fans.  Never heard a complaint on noise level for any of our systems." 

                           

                          There's a first time for everything, I guess.  Too bad there's no way to gauge this for yourself before committing.