12 Replies Latest reply on Sep 13, 2017 4:06 PM by Christian Chu

    Request for Forum Etiquette

    Dennis Dohogne

      Recently a thread was locked by Richard Doyle, the forum moderator.  He was right to do so.  The post had severely veered off course, but that wasn’t the reason for locking it. It was locked because there were replies that were getting too political and apparently also too much poor language being used.

       

      I am asking the good folks here to remember what this forum is for.  This forum is generously provided for us by SolidWorks.  They do not censor it like I have heard other companies do for the forum they provide.  We, the SWX users, are free to come here and complain about the software, ask for help, share tips and tricks, request new features, etc.  This forum is not intended to be an alternative to Facebook or other social media.

       

      Though my own profile lists my occupation as Party Pooper , I do not want to throw cold water on the fun we have sharing in these topics and having some laughs at the same time.  The purpose in writing this post is to provide a gentle reminder of what this forum is for and for us to be mindful of each other and our SWX host.

       

      To that end I ask that anyone that posts a reply to any post keep in mind the following:

      1. Is the reply on topic or is it going too far off topic?  (Try taking the off-topic posts here: The "Kitty Dump" - Watercooler - Trash it Here  )
      2. Is the reply helpful?  Does it provide an answer, suggestion, request for more information, or otherwise make a positive contribution to the thread’s subject?
      3. Is the reply only a few words with no contributing value?  Is it merely an effort to log another reply and get a few points?  (“LMAO” as the main or only part of a reply makes me want to stop following the post.)
      4. Is the reply delving into religion or politics?  Please don’t.  Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and mine are just as strong as others, but this forum is not the best place for that.  The politics slant is mostly what caused Richard to act.
      5. Is the reply insulting or attacking another person’s position?  Please be mindful of not just what you are saying, but how you are saying it. (There is one person that used to be on here a lot and I now have a filter to block him from my e-mail notices for his hateful and insulting responses.)

       

      I feel like I have made some really good friends here on this forum, though I have yet to meet you in person.  Some of you are across the street (for all I know) and some of you are halfway around the world.  This forum is a great place to learn from and share with each other.  Let's not pollute it with inane or inappropriate posts.  Let's keep it lively, fun and helpful.

       

      Respectfully submitted,

      Party Pooper

        • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
          John Stoltzfus

          Supported 100% - thanks for taking the words off my chest....

          • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
            Steve Calvert

            "Party Pooper"  good one...

             

            Oops, I replied without purpose.

             

            I think most of us that use this forum for good are ok with some discourse from time to time.  I also understand, because it happens to me too, that we need some playtime.  I'm really busy but a few minutes here and there sure make my day go by faster and helps to keep the lid on.

             

            Good job Dennis Dohogne

             

            Steve C

            • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
              Matt Peneguy

              Dennis Dohogne,

              Thanks for taking the time to post.  I'm sure you are busy helping clean up friend's and family's houses that may have been damaged or flooded.... and you had to stop and help clean-up these forums...For shame people!

              • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                Rick Becker

                Dennis, Ditto!

                And

                Thank you.

                • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                  Christian Chu

                  Thanks for the head up, Dennis

                  I totally agreed sense of humor is a need sometimes; however, there some limits should be stopped. Taking Harassment Prevention for Supervisors training I've learned that there many things seem to be harmless to say but actually offended others. so Please be careful before posting a  "out of the subject" mesg

                    • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                      Rick Becker

                      Christian Chu wrote:

                      ...Harassment Prevention for Supervisors training

                      I've learned that there many things seem to be harmless to say but actually offended others.

                      If ones speech will be limited by an offence quota (if even one person will be offended don't say it), then all speech must be suppressed. Anything one may say can always find at least one person to be offended.

                       

                      This is different from Respect and Decorum, which I believe should be our guiding principles.

                        • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                          Matt Peneguy

                          Absolutely correct Rick Becker... Just use some common sense.  Don't name call or try to out-right offend people and keep the politics off the forums, and that'll solve most of it and make Richard Doyle's job easier.  What's that saying, "if you wouldn't say it to your mother"?

                            • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                              Christian Chu

                              here is the one

                              For years, guys in my team used to joke to others "all your fault"  whenever we got issue and all laughed hard until one day that joke spreading to  the assembly floor and one hourly employee didn't find it amusing and  got upset  about it. it's ended up with complains to HR then it's a long drawn out process that tied up everyone including detail reports, interviews, and complaints in employee files.

                              I believe Rick doesn't want to happen. This can get out of hand quickly and it's a MESS

                                • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                                  Glenn Schroeder

                                  Christian Chu wrote:

                                   

                                  here is the one

                                  For years, guys in my team used to joke to others "all your fault" whenever we got issue and all laughed hard until one day that joke spreading to the assembly floor and one hourly employee didn't find it amusing and got upset about it. it's ended up with complains to HR then it's a long drawn out process that tied up everyone including detail reports, interviews, and complaints in employee files.

                                  I believe Rick doesn't want to happen. This can get out of hand quickly and it's a MESS

                                   

                                  It sounds like that one employee needed a new attitude.  He wouldn't last long at most of the places I've worked.

                                  • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                                    Matt Peneguy

                                    Here we go, this is getting really difficult.  Like I said, a lot can be handled by using the, "if you wouldn't say it to your mother" test.

                                    All Rick Becker seemed to be pointing out is that you can't keep everything to yourself for fear of offending someone, or you'll never say anything.

                                    I'll give you an example, years ago they sent me to Sexual Harassment training.  The gist of the training was that anything I said or did could be construed as sexual harassment as long as that is how the lady/man I was talking to, looking at, etc. perceived it that way.  Just saying "Hello" in the elevator could be grounds for a reprimand if the lady I said it to "perceived" I meant it in a "sexual harassing" way.  So, based on this, do I just not show up to work because I am afraid of harassing someone?... No, I show up and harass everyone equally (just kidding).

                                    To summarize, just try to be polite, courteous and keep the politics out and I think we'll be fine.

                              • Re: Request for Forum Etiquette
                                Rick McDonald

                                Christian Chu wrote:

                                 

                                .... many things seem to be harmless to say but actually offended others. so Please be careful before posting ...

                                I have done a good amount of overseas travel and have also come to realize that things can get very easily misunderstood by people who speak different languages or even where they use the same language but from a different region will not have the same meaning.  I have learned to be very careful, not only What I say but in how I say things and even then, with different understanding, it can be misunderstood.  There are also things you simply do not discuss in some cultures that are commonly discussed in others.

                                We all need to do our best to understand others feelings and understandings.  It's better to bite your tongue then to slap someone in the face (figuratively speaking).