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Hole Table - How do I select the radii of a slot?

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I'm using an Hole Table.

I have a slot.

I want a X/Y dimension for each radii of the slot. (whenever I select the radii it auto picks a loop)

It must be easy and I just can't see how.

Thanks in advance.

Rick Becker Jun 16, 2017 7:35 AM

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Thanks Dave. I still don't have even a good workaround. Deleting the rows (in the hole table) that I manually added if you do almost any formatting to the table was the last straw that broke my back.

Here is my REVISED WORKAROUND...

Create a General Table and manually add the slots.
Place this General Table in close proximity to the actual table.
Wish Dassault would make basic functionality work before adding new features.

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Stephen Bittner Jun 15, 2017 11:09 AM
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Try clicking on the "face" instead of the slot perimeter. It should pull all of the holes on the face into your table.
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John Stoltzfus Jun 15, 2017 11:14 AM
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Doesn't it allow you to pick the center point??

In the Hole Wizard feature you can edit the Slot Sketch and edit the sketch there...
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Rick Becker @ Stephen Bittner on Jun 15, 2017 11:33 AM
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Face does nothing. In my test the hole chart is empty
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Rick Becker @ John Stoltzfus on Jun 15, 2017 11:36 AM
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Will not allow center mark selection. There is no center point.
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Rick Becker Jun 15, 2017 11:36 AM
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I do see this message...
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John Stoltzfus @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 11:50 AM
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Duh - I now see you mean the "Hole Table" - I don't use hole tables or tables with holes or a hole on a table etc... don't got no .....
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Rick Becker @ John Stoltzfus on Jun 15, 2017 11:53 AM
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John Stoltzfus wrote:

don't got no .....
Green Eggs and Ham?
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John Stoltzfus @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 11:59 AM
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"Satisfaction"
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Rick Becker Jun 15, 2017 1:14 PM
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So, I uncheck Hide Hole Centers and I see a single center mark in the middle of the oblong slot. I would have expected 2 hole centers one at each arc.
The oblong was put in as a sketch (2-lines & 2-arcs). It is not a slot.
When I hover my mouse over the M1 tag there is a hidden leader attached to the arc.
Can someone tell me why there is a center mark not associated with a circle/arc element????
Thanks .

Please help.
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Dan Pihlaja @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 1:17 PM
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Solidworks treats slots like these as a single entity when it comes to hole tables.

A work around might be to (in your part file) create the ends of the slot as two holes from the hole wizard, then add a single extrude that is tangent to the two holes to create the slot. Then, in your hole table it might pick up the two holes instead of the single slot.
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John Stoltzfus @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 1:18 PM
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I wish I could give you answers, but I'll try and bump it so it stays at the top, surely someone knows... That sketch point in the center of the slot comes from the Hole Wizard Slot Feature...
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Rick Becker @ John Stoltzfus on Jun 15, 2017 1:19 PM
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But... It's not a hole wizard hole!!!!!!
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Rick Becker Jun 15, 2017 1:22 PM
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One more question. This should be easy as well, but I can't figure it out...

How do I add a hole to the existing chart?

I'm thinking of adding sketch geometry to each arc of the slot and adding them to the hole chart. Then I will hide the circles.
But, I can't figure out how to add a new hole.

Thanks again.
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Dan Pihlaja @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 1:26 PM
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IN your tree on the left, expand the view that has the table, and then RMB on the table and select "Edit feature".
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Rick Becker @ Dan Pihlaja on Jun 15, 2017 1:29 PM
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Thanks Dan.
I also found the answer here...
How to update a hole table?

However, I CAN"T ADD A SKETCH GEOMETRY CIRCLE.
WTF Dassault...
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Dan Pihlaja @ Dan Pihlaja on Jun 15, 2017 1:31 PM
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I just did a test using the method that I just mentioned.

I found that if I select the edge of the hole, then it still shows it as a slot (but won't show the size LOL).

But if I select the front face, then it lists all three features. The two holes from the hole wizard and also the slot as a whole (pun intended).
Then I can select the Slot row (E1) and delete it from the table. And now I have the slot selected as two holes instead of a single slot.
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Rick Becker Jun 15, 2017 1:30 PM
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An then ther is this...
Hole table frustrations
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Rick Becker @ Dan Pihlaja on Jun 15, 2017 1:36 PM
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I really like you "WORKAROUND".
Thank you Dan

I just realized a problem. These slots are for keyways. I will need to re-mate them (I have 5 slots in this plate). PITA!

What's a keyway?
Oh, around a ounce.
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Rick Becker Jun 15, 2017 1:46 PM
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Am I allowed to swear hear...
F#$%ing SolidWorks! Take a 10 minute detail job and turn it into a 3 hour workaround.
Never. I have NEVER had these problems with KeyCreator!
There I said it.
This should be EASY.

ONE and TWO, ONE and TWO, ONE and TWO...
ONE and TWO
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John Stoltzfus @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 1:53 PM
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There is a new kid cuoming to town - (Names A-Hole)

Yep - step right up Ladies & Gentlemen - Heeeerrrrrrrreeeeee Ccccooooommmmmmeeeeeeessssss Aaaaaaa-Hhhoooollllee

Not sure how this is going to go - if SW can't stimulate a natural shape of a Slot - how will they ever mess with the new Kid in town...
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Bernie Daraz @ John Stoltzfus on Jun 15, 2017 2:01 PM
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Or more professionally....
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Rick Becker Jun 15, 2017 2:24 PM
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Here's my workflow for a WORKAROUND that preserves the mates in the assembly.
1. Smart Dimension X&Y for each radii of slot
2. Write down on piece of paper the dimensions
3. Delete dimensions
4. In Hole Table, find existing slot row
5. Add two rows to hole table
6. Edit each cell and add locations as written down on the piece of paper
7. Edit Size cell and manually add description
8. Shake fist and curse loudly as you cannot combine the Size cells
9. Copy & paste what you typed in Size cell to other Size cell
10. Delete the Row of the original bogus slot
11. Add 2 notes with as fake Tags at each radii of slot
12. Shake you head as you need to do this five more times and pray you don't fat finger any numbers
13. Vow never to use hole charts again until it is fixed.
ONE and TWO

Edit:
WARNING..
Don't clink on Combine Same Sizes or reorder the chart as THIS WILL DELETE THE ROWS YOU JUST ADDED!!!!!!!
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John Stoltzfus @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 2:28 PM
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Did you just write in "CURSIVE"
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Rick Becker @ John Stoltzfus on Jun 15, 2017 2:29 PM
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Yes. Yes I did.
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Dan Pihlaja @ Rick Becker on Jun 15, 2017 2:35 PM
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The other option is to simply leave those slots out of the hole chart and add linear dimensions to only those slots.
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