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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
We do not use any special software for our die design or strip layout work. Our strip layout work is typically pretty basic stuff that can be handled with core SolidWorks.
LogoPress3 is who we would go with, if we did...
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
I have never actually used it, but one of my previous peers was using Logopress. He loves it still now. It is an add in for Solidworks and seems to work amazing.
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I've heard great things about Logopress3, there were a couple of guys at our UG meeting last night that use it.
The only other add-in that I remember is 3DQuickPress.
todd
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
Thanks Guys,
yeah I have tried the trial version but they only gave me access to the very basic features and without having training I couldn't use it to any extent that would show me its capabilities and worth.
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I am pretty sure if you contact the people at Logopress (or your VAR, maybe), they will do a presentation for you. I would go that route.
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
Hi Daniel. I can personally recommend LogoPress. Their post sales support is fantastic- very responsive (certainly for the UK as our local support is France) and they are exceptionally detailed in walking through solutions. I am not overly au fait with the software itself, but managing customer expectations through support tickets and seeing their level of detail in their replies shows them to be an exception Partner. I would think via your VAR, or even direct, they'd be happy to do a web demo.
Adam
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
I can add to the Logopress3 accolades. However, we didn't actually ever purchase or implement LP3.
The overall cost was prohibitive to management.
Basically, the recommendation was to learn SolidWorks to a very comfortable level before adding LP3 to the mix. LP3 changes almost everything concerning how a progressive die is constructed in SW. All for the better.
There is a steep learning curve to LP3.
LP3 has it's own yearly maintenance fee.
Check out the YouTube videos that are linked on the LP3 website. You will be sold. There is one competitor we checked out but at the time (3 years ago) LP3 was heads and shoulders better.
I wish I had LP3. But, you can do a very complex progressive die design with just SW. I know because I do it.
This is a picture of a die I recently did. There are 296 details on my BOM (note no fasteners or dowels on BOM). The die set is 21 x 36.
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Rick, that is a pretty impressive die you built with just solidworks. However if you had LP3 you could have done that die in a fraction of the time. I know because before I got LP3 I used only solidworks to build dies. Now that I have LP3 it is absolutely amazing how much time it saves me. Also being able to flatten parts that solidworks just can't handle is worth the cost. Time savings of anywhere from 50% to 80%. I don't necessarily agree that there is a very steep learning curve. If you are proficient in solidworks you could do pretty well with LP3 in a month or two. Enough to show your boss that there is a pretty good ROI.
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Bill Beam wrote:
I don't necessarily agree that there is a very steep learning curve.
... you could do pretty well with LP3 in a month or two.
You are a funny man Bill.
If it takes me a month or two just to get to pretty well, I call that a steep learning curve.
How long to have Ninja skills with LP3?
Bill, Thanks for you comments. From my research I can fully agree with you.
Management just won't pull the trigger.
I used my very best persuasion skills. Flowers, candy and I even said I love you.
Someday...
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Rick
I can understand your case for a month or two being a steep learning curve but (speaking only for myself) it took a lot longer than that before I was comfortable with solidworks. I've been using solidworks for almost 10 years now and it still sometimes throws me for a loop. But that being said, I took a closer look at the picture of the die you designed and it looks suspiciously like a tube inside a tube part that I designed a die for. If that is what it is then my hat is off to you, it looks like a really great job.
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Bill,
I've been using SW for only 4 years. It has been a non-stop learning curve. Becoming really proficient has taken most of that time.
Thanks for the kind words on the die design. Not a tube inside of a tube, but still complex and challenging.
Here is a strip and a closer look at the part...
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
Rick
No question that would be a tough part. This is just a guess on my part but I would say that it probably took you 3+ weeks to layout and fully detail that die ready to send to the shop. With LP3 it would probably cut that to about a week. I will look stupid if you come back and tell me that with just solidworks you did that job in just a couple of days.
I attached a picture of the tube inside a tube strip I mentioned. I think I had about a week and a half in it.
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I would Love to design that die. Not sure how you formed the curl of the outside tube with the inside tube in the way. Really very impressive.
My die took closer to 4 weeks to complete.
Bill, are you down in Alabama?
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
Thanks everyone! I'll get in touch with them and see how much a licence is
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Re: What is the best software for progression tool design
Check out www.solidCADworks.com
Those dies are done with Logopress3.
