People would stop complaining about how bad the program is if SW just fixed the SPR's.
However the pendulum swings the other way as well, you can't fix ignorance -
Not all - but a lot of issues steams from poor design intent and poor design tool selection decisions as well..
John Stoltzfus wrote:.... Not all - but a lot of issues steams from poor design intent and poor design tool selection decisions as well..
John Stoltzfus wrote:
Often caused by management that hands you the software and expects you to just start designing.
You figure out how to do things but often the "Wrong" way.
Then if you are lucky enough to eventually get proper training, you have to try to un-learn all your bad habits.
Even harder when you have been doing it wrong for several years.
These are all things SW has agreed is a problem with program. Some over three years old.
Ain't that the truth......... Fortunately that's not happening here.
Aaron Seifert wrote: People would stop complaining about how bad the program is if SW just fixed the SPR's.
Aaron Seifert wrote:
Some of them would, and others would find something else to complain about, but you can vote for this Idea if you want: Focus more on fixing bugs
We would if we were allowed access.
John Stoltzfus, Rick McDonald, Please, don't change the subject and heap a load of blame on the users.
Stay on point and concentrate efforts to get Dassault to do what the Users want as opposed to what their marketing department wants.
Heard ya loud and clear - forget the SW marketing dept. What and how they get things to work is canned and in the lab, with a lot of hype and fanfare, not out here in the grind and surely my response was not intended in trying to get SW off the hook at all. In the mean time I will still be down on bad modeling practices, having said that we also push stuff to the limit and at times we are doing things that SW isn't designed for.
Good money is paid in providing a tool for us and since the tool is bent, once in awhile we need to hold and finesse it to make it work for our applications and that is where it gets frustrating, when things go by year after year without being fixed. We all know there is more money in "hype" then in "fix"
To clarify my statement and intent, I was not trying to change the subject
- but the comment that Arron made in the body of the post is not a single item either.
First and foremost I agree the SPR's Must be fixed - if the software has problems it is not doing it's job properly and we can not either and we have the right and responsibility to complain and try to get it fixed.
However, If they were all fixed tomorrow and there were no more problems that required SPR's, we would still have people "complaining" that the program is bad if they don't know how to properly use it.
I am not trying to diminish the NEED for fixing the SPR's in the least and I am not trying to change the subject - but I am also responding to Aaron Seifert 's statement about people complaining about the software.
If you had a car and it had a steering problem and hit someone because you could not turn fast enough when you ran a red light because you were not told that red means stop, that is a training issue AS WELL. Fixing the car will not prevent you from running another red light.
If Arron had only said that SW needs to fix the SPR's so the software works correctly, I would not have included anything about training - as it would then have been a separate issue.
Spot on Rick McDonald .....
Me thinks yous guys take this way too seriously.
lololol - really
I see your perspective, however, there is no need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
IMHO, you interpreted a lot from one sentence...
Sometimes the answer is indeed simple.
Man-A: It's dark in this room.
Man-B: let me get my volt meter and see if there is power to the light. I will then trace the wire back to the panel to see if it is broken anywhere...
Man-C: (flips light switch)
Sadly you need a bunch of musketers (i mean SW user) so that a SPR would be fixed.
ONE FOR ALL, ALL FOR ONE
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