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"Input Dimension Value" unchecks itself

Question asked by Bill Rose on Oct 21, 2008
Latest reply on Jun 2, 2016 by Aleksandr Hohlatsov

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Has anyone else seen this? It will do this multiple times during a session. I have just recently noticed this problem and only since installing SP5.0 EV. I will try to go back to SP4.0 but it seems to be a less than trivial exercise..........Bill

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Wayne Tiffany Oct 21, 2008 6:38 PM
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Not here. Others turn off for various reasons, but I don't think I've ever seen that one.

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- 1-YJ1IM @ Wayne Tiffany on Oct 21, 2008 6:52 PM
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  Do you have any macros or custom programs that you run? This option causes problems in the SolidWorks API. But a good programmer will first check it. If it is on, turn it off and then at the end turn it back on.
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  - Bill Rose @ 1-YJ1IM on Oct 21, 2008 7:13 PM
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    I don't normally run any macros (I only have one I use infrequently), no custom programs.
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    - Dan Riffell @ Bill Rose on Oct 21, 2008 8:54 PM
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      Do you have Instant 3D turned on? If so, turn it off, delete the icon, and forget we ever had this conversation.
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      - Bill Rose @ Dan Riffell on Oct 22, 2008 1:22 PM
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        Dan Riffell wrote:
        
        Do you have Instant 3D turned on? If so, turn it off, delete the icon, and forget we ever had this conversation.
        
        Did that a long time ago.......Bill
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Rob Jensen Oct 22, 2008 1:31 PM
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Bill Rose wrote:

Has anyone else seen this? It will do this multiple times during a session. I have just recently noticed this problem and only since installing SP5.0 EV. I will try to go back to SP4.0 but it seems to be a less than trivial exercise..........Bill

That is odd..!!

This is exactly why I don't upgrade SP just because. We are on SP 3.0 and I'm not upgrading until there is a major problem and I need to. I've been burned in the past doing a upgrade that will fix one thing and break another....
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- Bill Rose @ Rob Jensen on Oct 23, 2008 12:14 PM
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  Rob,
  
  Normally I wouldn't have done this but I was trying to fix another problem that was supposedly addressed in SP5 (toolbars moving between sessions). Not only did SP5 not fix that problem but it added this one. Now I can't go back to SP4 without starting from scratch. Never again!.....Bill
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  - Dan Riffell @ Bill Rose on Oct 23, 2008 12:43 PM
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    Interesting. The toolbar issue was supposed to be a non-issue. I wonder how many other folks are seeing that one still.
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    - 1-YJ1IM @ Dan Riffell on Oct 23, 2008 12:54 PM
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      Here is a macro you can assign to a hot key that will check it when you notice it has become unchecked.
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      - John Sweeney @ 1-YJ1IM on Oct 24, 2008 4:59 PM
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        Hi Bill,
        I did some simple testing of SW2008 SP4 and SP5 and they both seem keep the proper "Input Dimension Value" setting.
        
        When you say it happens several times during your session, then I would guess that if you were to simply open the Tools-Options dialog, change the value and then reopen the dialog, then the value would be correctly restored? Is that true?
        
        I looked thru all of our SolidWorks code and don't see any place that it is being incorrectly set. In core SolidWorks, we only set the value from the Tools-Options dialog. However, I do see that we change the value in two of our "conversion" utilities; the "ProE" translator and the MDT/Inventor translator. Its possible that something is going wrong in one of those utilities, although they don't appear to have changed the code recently. Are you importing or exporting ProE or Inventor files? The registry value appears to get turned off at the begining of conversion and then restored to its initial value at the end of conversion. Perhaps your conversion is failing in some manner and we are incorrectly exiting the code before restoring the value.
        
        If you're not using these conversion utils, are you using any Addins that may be programmatically changing this setting? If so, could you try working without any addins loaded to see if the value is still getting changed?
        
        Thanks,
        John
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        Bill Rose @ John Sweeney on Oct 27, 2008 12:41 PM
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        Bingo John!
        
        I had this issue for several days which happened to be right after installing SP5 and then doing some Pro-E conversions. I finished doing the conversions and it hasn't happened since then. I could not figure out why it was doing that multiple times a session and then suddenly it stopped.
        
        And yes, I reset the option and if I go back into the options dialog, it shows it's still properly set. The option's setting is also confirmed by the behavior of the software -- until it changes again...
        
        I can now test at this end and try to confirm the connection to the Pro-E translator.
        
        Thanks..........Bill
        
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        John Sweeney @ Bill Rose on Oct 27, 2008 12:46 PM
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        Hi Bill,
        That's good news! Were any of those ProE convesions failing? If we can narrow it down to a specific case, then it should be an easy fix.
        Thanks,
        John
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        Bill Rose @ John Sweeney on Oct 27, 2008 1:43 PM
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        John,
        
        A quick confirmation of the cause;
        
        I exported an assembly to a Pro-E format -- no change to the option setting.
        
        I closed the original SWx assembly (no change at this point either) and imported the previously exported Pro-E file and after it finished I opened the option dialog and saw that the option had changed (or not changed back after conversion??). The process was clean both directions.......Bill
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        Bill Rose @ Bill Rose on Oct 27, 2008 2:35 PM
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        A bit more testing;
        
        An assembly with only parts, no sub assemblies doesn't result in an option setting change. Even a two level assembly will result in the option change.
        
        I'm using these settings (see attached) for import...Bill
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      - Bill Rose @ 1-YJ1IM on Oct 28, 2008 1:06 PM
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        Wayne Matus wrote:
        
        Here is a macro you can assign to a hot key that will check it when you notice it has become unchecked.
        
        Thanks Wayne,
        
        That works very well. I'll use it until this gets fixed....Bill
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        John Sweeney @ Bill Rose on Oct 28, 2008 9:25 PM
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        Hi Bill,
        This has been given SPR 458842.
        Thanks,
        John
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        John Sweeney @ John Sweeney on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM
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        Hi Guys,
        
        The "Input Dimension Value" issue has been fixed. This problem was tied to the conversion of pro/E files and Inventor/MDT files.
        The Pro/E issue was fixed in 2009 SP3 and the Inventor/MDT piece of the issue was fixed in 2009 SP4. The "Input Dimension Value" should now keep its setting after running these conversion utilities.
        
        Best Regards,
        John
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Aleksandr Hohlatsov Jun 1, 2016 8:31 AM
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Dan Riffellwas very close
Instant 2D - turn it OFF!!!
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- Dan Riffell @ Aleksandr Hohlatsov on Jun 1, 2016 10:24 AM
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  Holy wayback machine, Batman.
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- Glenn Schroeder @ Aleksandr Hohlatsov on Jun 1, 2016 12:40 PM
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  Aleksandr Hohlatsov wrote:
  
  Dan Riffellwas very close
  Instant 2D - turn it OFF!!!
  
  I kind of doubt that Instant 2d was the source of the problem, since it was introduced less than a year ago and these posts are 7 years old.
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  - Aleksandr Hohlatsov @ Glenn Schroeder on Jun 2, 2016 7:42 AM
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    Nevertheless it is problem now. Try itself: make dimension in sketch and try type sth, but if Instant 2D is turned on you cant. You need first click on float windows to start do it. I was really tired do it all time, while not finding this solution. Moreover sometimes it turned on and off itself, maybe some hotkeys that I dont know.
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