So that when wants this
it doesn't become this
as soon as one changes a single dimension?
Peter De Vlieger wrote: There for, I repeat myself, any indication that in 2017 it will be fixed so that it is at least back to pre-2016 usability?
Peter De Vlieger wrote:
There for, I repeat myself, any indication that in 2017 it will be fixed so that it is at least back to pre-2016 usability?
To quote you: "the correct answer.... is the illogical NO".
In my absence from the forum i was working on several routing deficiencies with my VAR. And i guess i was loud enough to summon the one whose name cannot be spoken- i had a chance to talk directly to SolidWorks developers. I am assuming that this is a huge achievement in its own, and i should be praised for it. Long story short, they do not seem to share our sentiment for the quality of routing add-in, and feel that it is good enough for the level of interest. i was also told that all changes are much more difficult to make in routing that in, let's say part modeling, as all changes in routing can adversely affect part modeling - or something along the lines. Basically, they intertwined coding for add-ins with base solidworks and any small change is not that easy to make. For example, i was asking to give us the ability to enlarge the configuration selection window. it was not an easy fix (!?) and since it is not crucial issue, will not be changed....
so.. wheels on the bus go round and round
Do you have a SPR number for this?
Shaodun Lin wrote: Do you have a SPR number for this?
Shaodun Lin wrote:
Not wanting to shoot the messenger but....
You are truly going to ask for an SPR number because of functionality that got botched in the 2016 version.
Something that got "partially" fixed in SP3 but is still fubar'ed in SP4.
And now you want us to spend hours filing SPR's to get something working as it was because the QA department couldn't be bothered to actual check if Routing still worked as promised?
I was trying to help you.
If the issue you faced has been reported to SOLIDWORKS Technical support and there is an SPR number attached to this issue.
I can check the system let you know the status of this SPR.
The sentiment of trying to be helpful is appreciated so no offence was meant.
However I'm peeved off and not just a little bit.
The only SPR that I know of that deals with anything dealing with whatever screwed up routing is reported as implemented.
The "fix" is the equivalent of keeping the bumper of your car falling of by means of some sticky tape, half rusted wire and a wad of chewing gum.
Routing is always a bit temperamental.
Nowadays designing a route is as stable as balancing a hard boiled egg on a tightrope in a hurricane during an earthquake.
Not only is one faced with the following dialog box whenever one moves a reference to which a routing part is connected, in my case this means a flange (= the starting/ending point for a route on a piece of equipment)
the correct answer to the dialog box is the illogical NO. Keep in mind that routing doesn't have an undo function so if you choose wrong, you're up the proverbial creek. If you choose 'leaving the sketch unsolvable' it isn't that you end up with what you wanted either.It only means that the mess that occurs is a salvageable mess, but a mess nonetheless.
Any one person at SW that spends a few minutes with routing should be able to notice that the routing functionality has taken a nose dive in 2016. The way to use it has once again changed compared to before, and not for the better.
Mladen Pavlovic wrote:- i had a chance to talk directly to SolidWorks developers. I am assuming that this is a huge achievement in its own, and i should be praised for it.
Mladen Pavlovic wrote:
- i had a chance to talk directly to SolidWorks developers. I am assuming that this is a huge achievement in its own, and i should be praised for it.
It is indeed not a small feat. All praise Mladen !
... enlarge the configuration selection window. it was not an easy fix (!?) and since it is not crucial issue, will not be changed....
The mind just boggles.
I hear you.
Thanks for the heads up.
Have a nice one
MY coworker, the nicest guy in the world has had to take it close to that far as well with Circuit works...
Mladen Pavlovic wrote: Peter De Vlieger wrote: Long story short, they do not seem to share our sentiment for the quality of routing add-in, and feel that it is good enough for the level of interest.so.. wheels on the bus go round and round
Long story short, they do not seem to share our sentiment for the quality of routing add-in, and feel that it is good enough for the level of interest.
Seems like a self fulfilling prophecy to me. At my last job we got all excited and a couple of guys went for routing training, came back and tried it for a short while and shelved the attempt. Here at my new job the tried routing before I got here, found 3D sketches work as well and we still do all our hydraulic hoses with 3D sketches.
If some time was spent fixing the program to work I know both companies would eagerly be using it. As it is... I just looked under the rock and there is no reason for interest so I'll move along.
it's worse. I started testing today to see if we are going to upgrade. The routing is broken as usual. We are currently looking into going to Autodesk Inventor. Their routing package has tons of pipe fittings and is easier to use. AND, AutoCAD doesn't crash 4 times a day. of course I get the same answer from tech support. " You're not on the most current service pack" and " I can't duplicate that on my machine" which means it's my problem, good luck.
Sounds typical SSDD
Here's what SolidWorks tells you. We sell the product but we won't support it because not many people use it. That's like a car company telling you "Not many people use their turn signal, so if it doesn't work, Oh well, we won't support it". As long as we make our money. That's all SolidWorks is after. Your yearly service/support check that doesn't get you anything but a broken program.
I work almost exclusively with routing every day and have all but completely given up on the auto route feature and manually define every single line and angle that has to be made. When routing i seem to run into glitches at an seemingly alarming rate, and with routing being a small part of solidworks little ever seems to be done to fix anything. so i just wanted to let you know i definitely feel your frustration...
I tried auto-route for the first month of purchasing the package. I saw through that "helpful" function immediately and told my drafters not to waste time with it. So we are doing it manually from the day 32.
yep I honestly tried it maybe a handful of times and decided it was easier to do all my work manually the user input.
It truly is a shame more development hasn't gone into it. so very close to being very good program.
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