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Question asked by Sean Nutley on Jun 17, 2008
Latest reply on Jun 20, 2008 by Neil Saxon

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I'm having a problem with revisions. We only use one letter A-Z for our revisions and a new drawing doesn't have a revision letter. In our PDMWorks options I use a '-' as the revision before 'A'. I also use '+' for the Working Copy. A drawing can get checked in multiple times before it's complete as the lifecycle 'In Progress' and the revision level shows up as '-+'. When this drawing is finished, it gets checked in and the lifecycle gets changed to 'Approved' but the revision level stays at '-+'. That seems to be OK but once a revision is done later on and checked back in at 'A', you can no longer view the original copy '-+' anymore.

If this doesn't make any sense I can clarify.

Thanks in advance.

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Neil Saxon Jun 17, 2008 5:45 PM
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Sean,
I am still learning how to manage PDMW. Although I've been learning how to tame the monster, it still raises it's head occasionally.
I take it that you have used the VaultAdmin to set up a listing for your primary rev levels. I have checked the sequential revisioning box.
I may check in a file several times before it is released or approved. When checking a file in, I notice that the rev level is incorrect, I specify what my rev level should with a user defined value.
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Marc Godbout Jun 17, 2008 8:28 PM
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It is my understanding that working copies are not preserved once the revision is incremented to the next revision level. This applies to all working copies, whether the revision is '-+', 01+, A+, A.01+, etc. For example: Current revision is A. Change is made and part is checked in at A+. Approval is obtained to release the part, which typically would be incremented to B. At that point revisions A and B could be loaded, but not revision A+.

An important side note: Because working copies are not preserved, it is impossible to rollback to a working copy. For example: Current revision is C and you wish to rollback to an earlier revision. You can rollback to A or B but not A+ or B+.

Colleagues, please correct if I am mistaken.
Marc
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- John Zhao @ Marc Godbout on Jun 18, 2008 4:23 AM
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  Marc Godbout
  
  We just start to use PDM workgroup and have not properly control the revsions, now out parts have large number revision, the question is ,is there anyway to rollback to A-01, then we can start again.
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Marc Godbout Jun 18, 2008 2:04 PM
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John,

You can rollback to A-01 but understand that any changes you made after A-01 will be lost.

Marc
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Sean Nutley Jun 18, 2008 2:47 PM
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Neil: Yes I have a listing for primary revisions set up in the vault admin. I don't use the Sequential Revisioning because I only use the primary level and the working copy. I'll attach some scrrenshots of my setting from the VaultAdmin.
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Brian Girouard Jun 19, 2008 7:03 PM
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Sean,
I'm by no means a pro either. I've implemented PDMW at a previous company and am in the process of implementing it at my current company. What you described makes sense as to why it's doing it. My suggestion to you is to create revisions PRIOR to the '-' revision you are using. By using, for example, revisions 1,2,3, etc. you can capture your changes as you develop the drawing. When you're ready, you can change the lifecycle status and revision to '-', with all previous numbered revisions intact.

I know this may not work for other reasons, but that's my 2 cents!
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Sean Nutley Jun 19, 2008 7:08 PM
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Oh I see. Yeah that's a good idea.

I don't need to capture work in progress, I just need the first 'approved' copy to be captured as in Rev.'-'. I guess I'll have to manually change the revision to '-' from '-+' when the lifecycle is switched to 'approved'.
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- Daniel Eelman @ Sean Nutley on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 AM
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  We have a revision level "DRAFT" prior to our "-". When we check in a doc, and select the status "Released" (in your case, "Approved"), it automatically changes the rev. to "-". I wish I understood all the options better, but the only difference I see in our settings from yours, is under "Change staus" on the Lifecycle tab, we have "Selected in the check-in dialog box" selected, rather than "In the vault before check in". As soon as we select the "Released" staus in the check-in box, the revsion field switches to "-". This sounds like what you are trying to do, but I don't know if this one setting is affecting that or not.
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Neil Saxon Jun 20, 2008 5:14 PM
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We currently use 01, 02 and so on for "engineering" changes. These changes are done prior to a ECR/ECO release when it will receive an alpha rev level ("A"). The numeric revs are primary & sequential while the alpha revs are secondary. This has worked fine for my company. I have yet to implement lifecycles without some king of issue.
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