15 Replies Latest reply on Jun 7, 2016 3:21 PM by Kevin Schippers

Section View excluding components

Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 11:36 AM

I am having issues with a component not being sectioned in a section view. The odd thing is that it worked less than 24 hours ago. I have attached two screen shots showing the issue. The building is a multibody part and is not sectioning. I have recreated the view and created the view in a completely new drawing file. I get the same results. The building part will section if it is not in an assembly. Everything sections as expected in the assembly but it will not display properly in the drawing.

SolidWorks 2016 SP3 Windows 10

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Re: Section View excluding components

John Stoltzfus Jun 7, 2016 12:02 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)

Did you try to move your section line - I noticed that if there is any ZTG (Zero Tol Geometry) in the cross section, SW will not cut the section correctly.
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  Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 12:10 PM (in response to John Stoltzfus)
  
  I have moved the section line to various locations throughout the model. i get the same results. It acts as if the building part is excluded from the section view. I am working around it by doing assembly cuts and configurations in the model but I would like for this to not be necessary.
  
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    John Stoltzfus Jun 7, 2016 12:13 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)
    
    Just the other day I discovered that if you have ZTG anywhere in your assembly, it won't cut it correctly - I am assuming that if you would move the buildings together by just a fraction, it may take it.
    
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      Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 12:31 PM (in response to John Stoltzfus)
      
      I just added an 1/8in overlap between all of the buildings. It made no difference. If I make a drawing of just the building it will section correctly. I would think it would be section the same in a assembly drawing but it does not.
      
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Marshall Wilson Jun 7, 2016 12:30 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)

Oh man I know I've dealt with this issue a bunch of times but I can't remember how I solved it.

Have you tried doing a section while in the Assembly itself? I've found that if I have a problem with a sectioned part/ass'y Drawing View it will often give me trouble doing the same section in the associated part/assembly. If that happens I can be pretty sure there is something weird going on within the part/ass'y and NOT the drawing.

Hard to tell without looking at the parts/assembly.
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  Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 12:40 PM (in response to Marshall Wilson)
  
  It sections fine in the model. No errors.
  
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    Marshall Wilson Jun 7, 2016 12:55 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)
    
    Ok so this does sound like some true weirdness, especially since the bottom of the triangle thing is drawn, but not the top.
    
    Here are a few things I regularly try:
    
    In the error Section View of Drawing - does anything change if you switch to "Shaded with Edges" or "Shaded"?
    Try creating a new Display State in the Part/Assy and deleting the old one.
    Try switching to "Hidden Lines Removed" in the part and see if that changes the drawing.
    
    good luck
    
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      Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 1:57 PM (in response to Marshall Wilson)
      
      Just to add some confusion. I left for lunch and closed everything down. Opened it back up after lunch and it was fixed. I had already restarted SolidWorks 5 or 6 times. I even rebooted the computer.
      
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Re: Section View excluding components

John Stoltzfus Jun 7, 2016 2:14 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)

That's an easy fix - When SW starts to act up - go for lunch -
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  Ryan McVay Jun 7, 2016 2:51 PM (in response to John Stoltzfus)
  
  John Stoltzfus If that's case then we would be like the hobbits!
  7:00am – Breakfast
  9:00am – Second Breakfast
  11:00am – Elevenses
  1:00pm – Luncheon
  4:00pm – Afternoon Tea
  6:00pm – Dinner
  8:00pm – Supper
  
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    John Stoltzfus Jun 7, 2016 2:59 PM (in response to Ryan McVay)
    
    If that were the case here, using 2016 SP3 - I'd starve or eat big a few times a month
    
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Steven Mills Jun 7, 2016 2:31 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)

When I see that a drawing view is excluding parts, I right-click the drawing view and check it's properties. One of the tabs is "Hide/Show Components. Go to that tab and delete any parts and assemblies that are in there.

That should solve the problem with already made drawing views. Why the section view may be hiding drawing parts in the first place; there is a setting that auto-hides components that are not 'seen' in the drawing view. I'm thinking that the original view may be hiding these and it is just carrying that to the section view. Here is a screenshot of the setting location with it highlighted.
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  Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 3:07 PM (in response to Steven Mills)
  
  The system option was already disabled on my machine. I also checked for the hidden components box in the section properties.
  
  John Stoltzfus I don't think I would ever starve. Half the "fun" of SolidWorks is figuring out what in the world it is doing.
  
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    Steven Mills Jun 7, 2016 3:14 PM (in response to Kevin Schippers)
    
    And nothing in the "hide/show bodies" and "show hidden edges" tabs either, when the problem was happening?
    
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      Kevin Schippers Jun 7, 2016 3:21 PM (in response to Steven Mills)
      
      Nope. I actually added the component to the list, rebuilt, removed it from the list, and rebuilt again when I was trying to fix it.
      
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