9 Replies Latest reply on Mar 14, 2008 11:23 AM by Karen Brunke

    CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?

    Karen Brunke
      I can't get my drill/tap thru using cosmetic threads to display properly. When I look at the Callout file, there is no parameter for Tap Thru with cosmetic threads. There is one for other thread types that work great, but we use cosmetic threads.

      My drawings currently show the settings for Drill thru, Tap blind with cosmetic threads. Anyone know how to fix this? Basically I want my Drill/Tap thru with cosmetic threads to show

      1/4-20 Tap Thru.
        • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
          Anna Wood
          Are you adding your taps with the hole wizard or are you extruding the holes with a sketch then adding cosmetic threads to the extrude feature.

          Here are a couple of the callouts from our calloutformat.txt file. See screenshot (the forum software is stripping some of the code formatting).

          Cheers,

            • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
              Karen Brunke
              We are using hole wizzard to put them in. On my system, the two items you listed as:

              *drilled thru but with blind threads*
              TAP-DRILLTHRU=DRILL THRU & TAP .....

              *with cosmetic thread*
              TAP-DRILLTHRU(ct)=DRILL & TAP THRU .....

              Both look at the same type of setup where the tap drill goes thru and the tap does not. You have them coded to say different things, but I think if you put in a tap-drill thru and tap to depth with cosmetic thread, you will get DRILL & TAP THRU size. If you don't, PLEASE let me know, because I do.

              I think I need a parameter in addition to these. If I had to guess, it will probably be

              TAP-THRU(ttct) or TAP-THRU(ct)

              I tried inserting both of these just in case, but they did not work.
                • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
                  Anna Wood
                  Karen,

                  I use tap to depth and tap thru all the time. They do appear as our calloutformat.txt file shows in the image. It works on our systems just fine.

                  What version and sp of SW are you using. What hole wizard standard are you using, ANSI Inch or what other standard?

                  Also can you post a simple sldprt, slddrw and your calloutformat.txt file (one that does not work as advertised). Zip them into an archive before attaching to your post.

                  Cheers,

                    • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
                      Karen Brunke
                      I'm working on a file for you to look at. Thanks.
                        • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
                          Karen Brunke
                          We are fighting another battle today that has our installation in an uproar. We were on 3.0, now we're on 2.0, and my hole wizzard features are not going in correctly. It is supposed to be wrapped up today, and I'll get you an archived file first thing in the morning. Thanks again. This would be great if we can get it to work.

                          If we can't get it to work the way we want, you still saved us time because 95% plus of our holes are either all blind or all thru, so changing the callouts to reflect those options makes sense. We will make the policy that when you tap to depth and drill thru, you don't use the cosmetic thread option or you manually fix the callout.
                            • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
                              Anna Wood
                              Karen,

                              We would use a cosmetic thread like always and just manually edit that callout in the hole chart or on the face of the drawing.

                              Hole Wizard and the Hole Callouts will work for most all the standard hole scenarios. It will cover 80-90% of the bases. However many of us create complex holes and need a bit more then the standard callout. Those I handle manually at the moment.

                              If I could get the SW Product Definition Specialist for Hole Wizard in a meeting for a few hours I would show him some of the things I would like to be able to do with HW and its driving Access database. There are a lot of hole callout scenarios that could be solved by opening up some options in the Access database.

                              Is there a Product Definition Specialist for Hole Wizard at SolidWorks? Curious minds (me) would like to know.

                              Cheers,
                      • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
                        Karen Brunke
                        I think we are going to do what you did and assume if a hole is drilled thru, it can be tapped thru. If users want a different answer, they can use the non-cosmetic thread representation.

                        Thanks
                          • CALLOUT PARAMETER FOR TAP THRU W/COSMETIC THD ?
                            Anna Wood

                            Karen Brunke wrote:

                             

                            I think we are going to do what you did and assume if a hole is drilled thru, it can be tapped thru. If users want a different answer, they can use the non-cosmetic thread representation.

                            Thanks

                            Karen,

                            What you really want is a way to callout drill thru holes with a partial depth tap. You were not specific about that being your problem in your first post.

                            I think I went with the 80-20 rule (more like 95-5 for us). The vast majority of time we drill thru/tap thru and drill/tap to depth.

                            Your scenario I have to think about a bit and experiment with the HW and callout file. Will be a bit later today before I can look into that in more depth. I am curious to see if there is a solution. Otherwise it would be a good enhancement request.

                            Cheers,